
Betrayal Season 5
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Ramon | Featured on ABC's Betrayal: Secrets and Lies
Andrea | Featured on ABC's Betrayal: Secrets and Lies
Inside Burden of Guilt S2 | BONUS
Libby | Featured on ABC's Betrayal: Secrets and Lies
Introducing: The Girlfriends: Trust Me Babe
A Conversation with RAINN | BONUS | Saskia’s Story
Betrayal: Secrets & Lies with ABC News Studios | BONUS
Update from Season 3 | BONUS | Stacey and Tyler’s Story
Donielle | Featured on ABC's Betrayal: Secrets and Lies
The Making of Season 5 | BONUS
Crystal | Featured on ABC's Betrayal: Secrets and Lies
Waking Up | EP 10 | Saskia's Story
Tina Maia | Featured on ABC's Betrayal: Secrets & Lies
Introducing: Betrayal Secrets & Lies

S5 Ep 9Rehabilitation | EP 9 | Saskia's Story
EAfter serving his time, Mike launches a new career. Content Warning for rape, tech-enabled sexual abuse, nonconsensual intimate image distribution, death, discussion of suicide, gun violence, and 911 audio. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Follow our newsletter and join the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com. For resources on sexual violence, visit rainn.org/betrayal. You can also get free, confidential, 24/7 support through RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline. Text HOPE to 64673 or call 1-800-656-HOPE. Every state has a domestic violence coalition, and many counties also have resources available. If you’re looking for help, go onto your county’s website to see what resources are available locally, or search the web for your state’s domestic violence coalition. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S5 Ep 9Updates from Ember, Natalie, and Stephanie | BONUS | Saskia’s Story
bonusEmber, Natalie, and Stephanie’s stories aren’t over. Here’s where they are today. Content Warning for rape, tech-enabled sexual abuse, nonconsensual intimate image distribution, mental health struggles, and chronic illness. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Follow our newsletter and join the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com. For resources on sexual violence, visit rainn.org/betrayal. You can also get free, confidential, 24/7 support through RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline. Text HOPE to 64673 or call 1-800-656-HOPE. Every state has a domestic violence coalition, and many counties also have resources available. If you’re looking for help, go onto your county’s website to see what resources are available locally, or search the web for your state’s domestic violence coalition. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S5 Ep 9The Bachelor Who Was Betrayed | BONUS
bonusBetrayal host Andrea Gunning does an exclusive interview from SXSW with Love Trapped host Stephani Young and its subject, former ABC's Bachelor star Clayton Echard. Andrea explores how Clayton’s journey on Love Trapped is very similar to the stories that frequently come up on Betrayal and how he is navigating his journey of growth after his personal betrayal experience. You can listen to the Love Trapped podcast here. New episodes release every Thursday. To see the exclusive video version of this interview, become a paid subscriber on the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. If you would like to reach out to the Love Trapped team, email us at [email protected] and follow along on Instagram @glasspodcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S5 Ep 8Love Is No Defense | EP 8 | Saskia's Story
EAdvocates fight to change the law that protected Mike Levengood. Content Warning for rape, sexual violation by an intimate partner, and nonconsensual intimate image distribution. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Follow our newsletter and join the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com. For resources on sexual violence, visit rainn.org/betrayal. You can also get free, confidential, 24/7 support through RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline. Text HOPE to 64673 or call 1-800-656-HOPE. Every state has a domestic violence coalition, and many counties also have resources available. If you’re looking for help, go onto your county’s website to see what resources are available locally, or search the web for your state’s domestic violence coalition. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S5 Ep 8Survivors’ Discussion Continued | BONUS | Saskia’s Story
bonusEThe survivors from the roundtable in Episode 7 continue their conversation. Content Warning for rape, tech-enabled sexual abuse, nonconsensual intimate image distribution, and mental health struggles. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Follow our newsletter and join the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com. For resources on sexual violence, visit rainn.org/betrayal. You can also get free, confidential, 24/7 support through RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline. Text HOPE to 64673 or call 1-800-656-HOPE. Every state has a domestic violence coalition, and many counties also have resources available. If you’re looking for help, go onto your county’s website to see what resources are available locally, or search the web for your state’s domestic violence coalition. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S5 Ep 7Not Alone | EP 7 | Saskia's Story
EFour women. Four stories of survival. Saskia finds out she's not the only one. Content Warning for rape, tech-enabled sexual abuse, nonconsensual intimate image distribution, mental health struggles, and chronic illness. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Follow our newsletter and join the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com. For resources on sexual violence, visit rainn.org/betrayal. You can also get free, confidential, 24/7 support through RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline. Text HOPE to 64673 or call 1-800-656-HOPE. Every state has a domestic violence coalition, and many counties also have resources available. If you’re looking for help, go onto your county’s website to see what resources are available locally, or search the web for your state’s domestic violence coalition. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Introducing: Love Trapped
trailerFormer Bachelor Clayton Echard’s casual one-night fling turned into a paternity nightmare. The scandal ignited the internet, attracting hundreds of citizen sleuths who noticed the story didn’t add up. New episodes are released every Thursday. If you would like to reach out to the team, email [email protected] and follow along on Instagram @GlassPodcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S5 Ep 6Credibility | EP 6 | Saskia's Story
EDuring their divorce trial, Mike’s legal team tries every trick in the book to make the court doubt Saskia’s story. Content Warning for tech-enabled sexual abuse, nonconsensual intimate image distribution, mental health struggles, chronic illness, rape, and litigation trauma. Find Deborah Tuerkheimer's book Credible: Why We Doubt Accusers and Protect Abusers here. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Follow our newsletter and join the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com. For resources on sexual violence, visit rainn.org/betrayal. You can also get free, confidential, 24/7 support through RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline. Text HOPE to 64673 or call 1-800-656-HOPE. Every state has a domestic violence coalition, and many counties also have resources available. If you’re looking for help, go onto your county’s website to see what resources are available locally, or search the web for your state’s domestic violence coalition. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Introducing: Burden of Guilt Season 2
trailerBurden of Guilt Season 2, hosted by Nancy Glass, tells the story of a devastating lie that sent an innocent man to prison for life—until a confession changed everything, forcing a reckoning with guilt, justice, and redemption. You can reach out to the Burden of Guilt team at [email protected]. For more Burden of Guilt, follow us on Instagram @glasspodcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S5 Ep 5Tornado | EP 5 | Saskia's Story
EThe trial of Mike Levengood looms. But at the eleventh hour, the prosecutor gets a call. Content Warning for tech-enabled sexual abuse, nonconsensual intimate image distribution, mental health struggles, chronic illness, and rape. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Follow our newsletter and join the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com. For resources on sexual violence, visit rainn.org/betrayal. You can also get free, confidential, 24/7 support through RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline. Text HOPE to 64673 or call 1-800-656-HOPE. Every state has a domestic violence coalition, and many counties also have resources available. If you’re looking for help, go onto your county’s website to see what resources are available locally, or search the web for your state’s domestic violence coalition. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S5 Ep 4The Full Picture | EP 4 | Saskia's Story
EThe extent of Mike’s crimes comes to light. But a legal loophole threatens to turn an open-and-shut case into an uphill battle for justice. Content Warning for tech-enabled sexual abuse, rape, substance dependence, mental health struggles, nonconsensual intimate image distribution, and chronic illness. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Follow our newsletter and join the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com. For resources on sexual violence, visit rainn.org/betrayal. You can also get free, confidential, 24/7 support through RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline. Text HOPE to 64673 or call 1-800-656-HOPE. Every state has a domestic violence coalition, and many counties also have resources available. If you’re looking for help, go onto your county’s website to see what resources are available locally, or search the web for your state’s domestic violence coalition. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S5 Ep 3Dead Weight | EP 3 | Saskia's Story
EMike’s mask comes off, and Saskia’s friends and family rush to gather evidence before it’s too late. Content Warning for tech-enabled sexual abuse, nonconsensual intimate image distribution, and rape. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Follow our newsletter and join the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com. For resources on sexual violence, visit rainn.org/betrayal. You can also get free, confidential, 24/7 support through RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline. Text HOPE to 64673 or call 1-800-656-HOPE. Every state has a domestic violence coalition, and many counties also have resources available. If you’re looking for help, go onto your county’s website to see what resources are available locally, or search the web for your state’s domestic violence coalition. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S5 Ep 6Beyond Betrayal | The Making of 'The Crimes of Margo Freshwater'
bonusCurious about what it really takes to unravel a decades-old fugitive story? Andrea sits down with Cooper Moll, host and reporter of Glass Podcasts and Sony Music Entertainment's new series The Crimes of Margo Freshwater, for an in-depth conversation about the making of the show. They dive into the behind-the-scenes challenges of tracking down Tonya McCartor, formerly known as Margo Freshwater, securing her first-ever interview, navigating the moral gray areas of reinvention and guilt, and turning a true crime story into a nuanced, human-centered narrative. Cooper shares unexpected twists from the reporting process and why this tale of identity, deception, and second chances hits so close to home for the Betrayal community. If you haven’t listened yet, binge The Crimes of Margo Freshwater now. It’s an original from Glass Podcasts and Sony Music Entertainment, with episodes available on The Binge, exclusively on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts. Listen to The Crimes of Margo Freshwater here. For more from Andrea and the team, email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Follow our newsletter and join the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S5 Ep 2In Sickness and In Health | EP 2 | Saskia's Story
EAs Saskia’s health spirals, Mike is there for her. But her unraveling isn't what it seems. Content Warning for mental health struggles, substance dependence, chronic illness, physical injury, death of a parent, and tech-enabled sexual abuse. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Follow our newsletter and join the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com. For resources on sexual violence, visit rainn.org/betrayal. You can also get free, confidential, 24/7 support through RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline. Text HOPE to 64673 or call 1-800-656-HOPE. Every state has a domestic violence coalition, and many counties also have resources available. If you’re looking for help, go onto your county’s website to see what resources are available locally, or search the web for your state’s domestic violence coalition. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S5 Ep 1In The Dark | EP 1 | Saskia's Story
EWhen Saskia wakes up in the middle of the night, she sees something she can never unsee. In the Season 5 premiere of Betrayal, a hidden life begins to surface. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Follow our newsletter and join the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com. For resources on sexual violence, visit rainn.org/betrayal. You can also get free, confidential, 24/7 support through RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline. Text HOPE to 64673 or call 1-800-656-HOPE. Every state has a domestic violence coalition, and many counties also have resources available. If you’re looking for help, go onto your county’s website to see what resources are available locally, or search the web for your state’s domestic violence coalition. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Betrayal Season 5 Trailer | Saskia's Story
trailerSaskia Inwood woke up one morning, knowing her life would never be the same. The husband she knew in the light of day was a different person after dark. The brand-new season of Betrayal premieres January 29th. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Follow our newsletter and join the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com. For resources on sexual violence, visit rainn.org/betrayal. You can also get free, confidential, 24/7 support through RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline. Text HOPE to 64673 or call 1-800-656-HOPE. Every state has a domestic violence coalition, and many counties also have resources available. If you’re looking for help, go onto your county’s website to see what resources are available locally, or search the web for your state’s domestic violence coalition. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Introducing: The Crimes of Margo Freshwater
trailerWhen she was 18, Margo Freshwater fell in with a much older man, and together they blazed through a three-week long crime spree that ended with her sentenced to 99 years for murder. But then she escaped from prison...and vanished for the next three decades. As Margo built a life under a new name; investigators chased her ghost... When host, Cooper Moll, sets out to find Margo, she expects the legend. What she finds is a far more tangled story. Binge all episodes of The Crimes of Margo Freshwater ad free January 1st by subscribing to The Binge. Visit The Binge Crimes on Apple Podcasts and hit ‘subscribe’ or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 32Lori | Betrayal Weekly
Lori’s dad was a hero, and a source of safety. But that trust was shattered when his double life came to light. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 31Dan & Sage | Betrayal Weekly
A father and daughter come together to fight against a betrayal that devastated their family. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 30Heather | Betrayal Weekly
Jace pulled Heather into a web of lies. But she was determined to untangle it. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 28April | Betrayal Weekly
After twenty years of marriage, April thought she’d seen every side of Joe. She never imagined the one that put him behind bars. PERPETRATOR DISCLOSURE: This episode discusses crimes committed by Richard Joseph Banks Jr in San Diego, California. If you or someone you know has experienced sexual assault, you are not alone. RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline offers free, confidential, 24/7 support in English and en Español. Call (800) 656-HOPE (4673) or Text HOPE to 64673. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 29RE-RELEASE: Bernie Pt.1 & Pt. 2
This week, our team is taking a holiday break, and we’re re-releasing a listener favorite, Bernie Pt 1 & Pt 2. Bernie Brown met a charming man from a powerful UK family. Their romance had to stay secret. But Bernie would soon learn the real secret was far more dangerous. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 27Crystal | Betrayal Weekly
CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses domestic violence and sexual assault. Crystal Harris escaped the man who terrorized her, and in the process, challenged the institutions that failed her. If you or someone you know has experienced sexual assault, you are not alone. RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline offers free, confidential, 24/7 support in English and en Español. Call (800) 656-HOPE (4673) or Text HOPE to 64673. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 26Helen | Betrayal Weekly
Helen’s world revolved around her mother. After her mom passes, she leaves something behind that reshapes Helen’s past and challenges her understanding of who her mom truly was. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 25Mackenzie | Betrayal Weekly
Growing up, Mackenzie and her older sister Leigh were inseparable. Then, a Facebook friend request sets off a chain of lies that would change both of their lives and relationship forever. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 24Betrayal LIVE! on Virgin Voyages
Hear Betrayal’s first-ever live show with Andrea Gunning and our Betrayal storytellers, onboard Virgin Voyages’ True Crime Cruise. We hear updates from Stacey and Tyler, Karoline and her kids. We discuss survivor-centered true crime and what it’s like to have your real life turned into a true crime podcast. It’s an emotional and in-depth conversation about the kind of work we do, and what it means to the people who are at the center of it. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod. To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 23Kimberly | Betrayal Weekly
Her ex-husband seemed to have eyes and ears everywhere. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 22Bernie Pt. 2 | Betrayal Weekly
Leo’s elaborate fraud is finally exposed. His face is on the news. Bernie finally gets some answers. You can follow Bernie on TikTok @Bernie.Brown If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 21Bernie Pt. 1 | Betrayal Weekly
Bernie Brown met a charming man from a powerful UK family. Their romance had to stay secret. But Bernie would soon learn, the real secret was far more dangerous. You can follow Bernie on TikTok @BernieBrown If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 20Taylor | Betrayal Weekly
Her father was a beloved local coach. At home, he was a different person. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 19Betrayal Weekly | Brook
If you’re new to Betrayal, we want to share a recent episode from our sister show, Betrayal Weekly. On Betrayal Weekly, you’ll hear standalone stories of deception every Thursday. Each episode is told by the person who lived through it, and hosted by Andrea Gunning. This is Brook’s first-person account of surviving an unthinkable betrayal. If you like what you hear, just search for Betrayal Weekly in your podcast app and hit subscribe. Content Warning: Brook’s episode contains a description of pregnancy loss. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 18Jackie | Betrayal Weekly
She wanted a companion for the last chapter of her life. But an online romance compromised everything she’d worked for. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 17Jill | Betrayal Weekly
Jill’s youngest brother was one of her favorite people, until the FBI exposed the dark truth about him. To find more information about Jill’s work and her podcast, visit https://jillstoddard.com/ If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 16Tracie | Betrayal Weekly
A small-town pastor built a loyal group of followers, until an anonymous letter writer threatened to expose his secret life. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 3Behind Betrayal with ABCNews Studios
bonusEHey Betrayal listeners, Andrea here! To celebrate the release of Season 3 of the docu-series Betrayal: Under His Eye, we’re doing something a little different. In this bonus episode, I have an exclusive conversation with a few of the people at ABCNews Studios who helped Betrayal become a hit TV series on Hulu. Once you’ve listened, check out the series we all brought to life. Betrayal: Under His Eye is available to stream NOW only on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+. All three episodes are available to binge! On this bonus episode, I’m joined by ABCNews Executive Producer Muriel Pearson, Head of ABCNews Studios Mike Kelley, and Glass Entertainment Group's Executive Producer Jon Hirsch to talk about how the Hulu docu-series came to be as well as some behind-the-scenes details of how the show is made. We also discuss how my guests decide if a podcast would work well for TV, the importance of bringing these stories to a broader audience, and how the true crime genre has evolved to let women tell their own stories — not just as victims, but as survivors. To watch me have this conversation with my guests, as well as access more conversations with Ashley, Stacey, Karoline and the Betrayal team not on this feed, subscribed for FREE today to Beyond Betrayal, the official Substack community of Betrayal. And if you have a story you’d like to share with us, email us at [email protected]. And if you’re a paid Substack subscriber, join us in the chat!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S4 Ep 15Alicia | Betrayal Weekly
Running a dance studio was Alicia’s dream. Her husband's secrets would tear it apart. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.