Spectator Out Loud: Michael Gove, Max Jeffery, Paul Wood, Susannah Jowitt and Leyla Sanai

<div>On this week’s <em>Spectator Out Loud</em>: Michael Gove interviews Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood (1:17; Max Jeffery shadows the police as they search for the parents of three abandoned babies (14:41); Paul Wood asks if this is really the end of the PKK, the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (20:57); Susannah Jowitt reports that death has come to the Chelsea Flower Show (28:55); and, Leyla Sanai reviews Graham Swift’s new anthology of short stories, <em>Twelve Post-War Tales</em> (34:23).<br><br>Produced and presented by Patrick Gibbons.</div> <hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>