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Show Notes
Klaas talks with Gavin Oates Managing Director of Tree of Knowledge one of the UK’s most exciting people development organisations. Working with some of the largest organisations in the world, Gavin is one the most sought after speakers at conferences and exhibitions around the world.
They discuss
Travelling and being away from your children
Being present
Beautiful interruptions
The importance of play
Toilet paper and the everyday stress of life
How to shine - charging your mind each day