The Future of HR: Why Being CPO Is Just the Hardest with Hebba Youssef
Rodney Evans talks with guest Hebba Youssef about why the CPO role is the hardest job at any company.
At Work with The Ready · Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin
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Show Notes
Since last fall, we’ve spoken/joked/laughed/cried with hundreds of HR leaders and change makers about the Future of HR and the industry’s evolutionary tipping point. And despite spending time with many inspiring CPOs and CHROs, there’s none quite like Hebba Youssef. Along with being Workweek’s Chief People Officer, she’s also the author of “I Hate It Here”, a no holds barred newsletter unpacking HR’s thorniest problems and putting into words what everyone’s thinking but too afraid to say. Plus, her GIF game? Unparalleled.
This week, on episode 6 of our miniseries, Rodney Evans sits down with Hebba to talk about how “I Hate It Here” came to be, how a role often tasked with putting out one fire after another can stay focused on strategy, and why being CPO is the hardest and loneliest job in any organization.
Learn more about Hebba Youssef:
- On LinkedIn
- Subscribe to the “I Hate It Here” newsletter and listen to her podcast.
- Join the Safe Space community.
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00:00 Intro + Check-In: What’s something that you love that is kind of embarrassing?
04:20 Origins of “I Hate It Here”
09:36 What resonates the most in the “I Hate It Here” community?
10:32 Sources of burnout in HR
15:58 Balancing strategy with the day-to-day as CPO
21:23 HR’s martyrdom complex
23:48 Isolation and loneliness in HR
30:25 The CEO-CPO relationship
34:52 HR as the organization’s doctor
40:09 Hebba’s top HR mission to solve
46:03 Wrap up: Leave us a review!