The Future of HR: HR’s Data Dilemma and Breaking Free of the Status Quo with Brian Elliott
Rodney Evans and guest Brian Elliott explore how to find and use data to make big changes in HR.
At Work with The Ready · Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin
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Show Notes
We’re living in a data-rich time. Searching for a study or report on, say, the benefits of a three-day return-to-office policy? You’re mere clicks away from convincing arguments with shiny graphics and spicy pull-quotes to post on LinkedIn.
But there’s also never been a worse time for data, with a glut of conflicting information being confidently shared from unreliable sources.
Most frustrating, even if you find all the trustworthy data needed to craft a watertight argument for burning your performance management program to the ground, all the numbers in the world don’t seem to be enough to change a single executive’s rigid opinion, let alone an entire C-suite.
HR has never had more data at their fingertips—so why does that data often feel useless?
To explore this data dilemma, we brought back friend-of-the-pod Brian Elliott to unpack what’s stopping HR departments (and let’s be real, most organizations writ large) from turning this mountain of information into meaningful action. In this episode, Rodney and Brian talk about:
- The top headaches facing HR leaders around the globe
- Why change efforts for problems with clear supporting data often fail to get moving
- How to source and interpret external information, as well as gather it from within your company
- How to meaningfully engage with entrenched opinions and make change
Learn more about Brian and what he’s up to on LinkedIn.
Mentioned references:
- Future Forum
- Muriel Bowser, mayor of DC inaugural address (actually said in her third, not her second)
- Helena Gottschling, Former CHRO of Royal Bank Canada
- Tsedal Neely, Harvard Business School professor and author
- Future of HR AI episodes: Part 1 & Part 2
- Brainwriting
- eNPS (Employee Net Promoter Score)
- Erin Figueroa, former VP, Operations at Slack
- Dawn Sharifan, former SVP, People at Slack
- Nadia Rawlinson, former CPO at Slack
- Boston Consulting Group
- Future of HR Hebba Youssef episode: Episode 6
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00:00 Intro + Check-In: Who is your more interesting relative?
03:35 What Brian’s been up to since SXSW
04:58 Top of mind concerns Brian hears from CPOs/CHROs: #1 - Burnout, #2 - Return to Office
11:09 #3 - Generative AI
16:09 HR leaders feeling “not ready” and “too busy” to change
18:52 You can’t be a strategic partner if you don’t want to/can’t change
20:31 What keeps people from acting on data and research that contradicts the status quo
28:16 Timeline and subtlety of change and the temptation to snap back
31:06 Organizational metrics Brian keeps an eye on
33:35 Cross-functional solutions to data driven problems
39:08 C-suite not supporting HR when they do bring a data backed case for change
41:59 Sourcing and interpreting external and internal data
45:13 How HR can combat entrenched opinions with data
48:17 Wrap up: Leave us a review!