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AUA: Can Internal Transformation Teams Really Drive Change?
Season 8 · Episode 31

AUA: Can Internal Transformation Teams Really Drive Change?

Rodney and Sam explore whether real impact in organizational change comes from working inside a company or as an external consultant—and what to consider if you’re trying to build a career in this work.

At Work with The Ready · Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin

December 22, 20257m 47sbonusExplicit

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Show Notes

Many people who want to work in organizational change hit the same question: is it better to do this work from inside an organization, or from the outside as a consultant? In this AUA mini episode, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin respond to a listener who’s considering a career shift into org change and wrestling with whether internal transformation teams can really drive meaningful change—or whether outside consultants have more leverage. They unpack why internal org design teams are often constrained by design, where they can work when positioned well (hint: it’s probably not HR), and why external consulting offers faster learning through sheer volume of reps. They also explore how you can start doing work design and change work without holding a formal transformation title.


Hear the episode this question was in response to: AWWTR Ep. 28


Got a work question like this one you'd like us to answer? Email us at [email protected]

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