
Art and Labor
A podcast focusing on the on-going struggle to survive as an art or cultural worker
OK Fox & Lucia Love · O.K. Fox & Lucia Love
Show overview
Art and Labor has been publishing since 2021, and across the 5 years since has built a catalogue of 100 episodes. That works out to roughly 130 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence.
Episodes typically run an hour to ninety minutes — most land between 1h 7m and 1h 27m — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-US-language Arts show.
There hasn’t been a new episode in the last ninety days; the most recent episode landed 3 months ago. The busiest year was 2022, with 34 episodes published. Published by O.K. Fox & Lucia Love.
From the publisher
Art & Labor chronicles the stories of social justice organizing within the arts. We hope to center the human cost of the “art world” and advocate for fair labor practices for artists, assistants, fabricators, docents, interns, registrars, janitors, writers, editors, curators, guards, performers, and anyone doing work for art & cultural institutions.
Latest Episodes
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226 – Paincast
Fresh from top surgery and other gender based procedures, Nas and OK podcast from a castle at the end of the world in Manhole-hattan. OFC the fujoshi hypebeast Heated Rivalry takes are here, reviews of the stage production of Faggots and Their Friends Between Revolutions and Prince Faggot also get their time. Mostly, the freaks … Continue reading "226 – Paincast"

225 – Yaoi Con Dachau
Nas is back from Germany and tells us about the beauty of smaller anime fests in cities with functional public transit. We are turning into an anime podcast. We talked about One Piece color revolutions, Chainsaw Man, and horror manga. We also bitch about the democrats and grill Zohran cause not enough people are! The … Continue reading "225 – Yaoi Con Dachau"

224 – Dispatch from the Election Night Boris Concert
Hey sweetie angels, how we doing under the woke Sherita law Zohrussy caliphate?? The full concert was recorded in my bag my accident! A gift for the Patreon! We saw a Hilary sticker directly after the concert, what does it mean? Cautioning us about Obama 2. We promise to keep yelling at the mayor, no … Continue reading "224 – Dispatch from the Election Night Boris Concert"

223 – A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Theater
As the great band Sparks (playing in Brooklyn next month, and YES we are in the street team) once said “Everybody’s stupid, that’s for sure.” Nas and OK discuss two instances where they could have been banned from IFC, an evil place that charges $14 for beer (EVEN THOUGH THE SIGN SAYS 10!!) It’s become … Continue reading "223 – A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Theater"

222 – Horse Race Replacement Therapy w/ Blake Andrews
OK called hir shot and got the Horse Race Master themselves on the pod! Blake Andrews makes incredible experimental games on the DIY community level through the independent arcade scene in NYC, and is widely published on Glorious Trainwrecks. We get into queerdo old head talk about making work for our neighborhoods despite virality on … Continue reading "222 – Horse Race Replacement Therapy w/ Blake Andrews"

221 – Pod Save Ridgewood w/ Vape Kid Jr.
Nu Art and Labor is she/hir!! We’re graced with the multitalented drag king, puppeteer, and playwriter Ashely Pignataro aka Vape Kid Jr.!!! Fresh off the nearly sold out run of her play The Cool Zone at The Brick Theater, she lends us wonderful reflections on anti-fascist, anti-imperalist, and anti-Ru Paul transsexual art. A true kindred … Continue reading "221 – Pod Save Ridgewood w/ Vape Kid Jr."

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220 – TV Show (free feed audio only)
Hello and welcome to Art and Labor TV!! Comrade of the show Monica Rocha has engaged our brains on even more media resources our puny brains cannot handle alone! We FUCK UP and USE THE RESOURCES ANYWAY and have SO MUCH FUN! We talk DIY, it’s very meta cause we’re also inside the concept of … Continue reading "220 – TV Show (free feed audio only)"

219 – Podcast Convention
Something is happening, we’re getting into the economics of conventions, will you join us? Will you Rambo for the library? I’m listening to Coil while I finish “Art and the Occult” :)))) What is we made a new free breakfast program?

218 – Mall Museum
Things we talked about : Ridgewood/Bushwick border is getting a Burlington, what is Burlington?St Marks is Disney Universities are company townsLet’s dissolve ColumbiaLet’s dissolve all the universitiesWas Luigi the real shooterMayors raceLet’s leave the democratsDSA should drop the AThe ZiziansFocusing on our healthWe are taking over Middle VillageBryan Lehrer come on the show -Marshall’s good … Continue reading "218 – Mall Museum"

217 – Clown Drag w/ Monica Rocha
We’re join by the multimedia artist Monica Rocha aka Momo the clown aka Myrtle Widecock aka Sappho’s Trap House!! We discuss the video means of production, Britney Spears and our influences, Rambo Hochul, Paper Tiger Television and other a/v art comrades, and make a plea for David Cross to be our landlord. PLUS we review … Continue reading "217 – Clown Drag w/ Monica Rocha"

216 – Music Ecology vs the Mood Machine w/ Liz Pelly LIVE
This is the Liz Pelly interview for the real heads!! We have a (perhaps brutally) honest discussion about the state of DIY and our extractive relationship with big tech. How do we untangle? Since Silent Barn times we’ve been researching, organizing, and building alternatives. We outline some of them in a fruitful discussion of Liz’s … Continue reading "216 – Music Ecology vs the Mood Machine w/ Liz Pelly LIVE"

215 – Eating with Tech Money
Can you believe it? The gang gets annoyed with another Ridgewood restaurant. Maybe it’ll make you feel at peace that the #1 podcast for trans guy divorcees isn’t really freaking out about the destruction of the federal government. It is the men behind the curtains we’re worried about. How to kill tech bros in a … Continue reading "215 – Eating with Tech Money"

214 – Collective Visions
The gang’s all here. Nas is back after a brief health holiday and OK is back from Rhode Island where he was an artist resident at the Wedding Cake House. Fresh from the arms of feminist collective care, we brainstorm how to build more refuges, how to increase access to art, and generate more collective … Continue reading "214 – Collective Visions"

Interview with Concetta Abbate
In our new series, Kenneth interviews New York violinist and composer Concetta Abbate. They discuss coming up in a family of working musicians, her early days of subway busking, working in New York City, and becoming a death doula as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. If you enjoy this type of carefully produced content … Continue reading "Interview with Concetta Abbate"

213 – This Country is Unfit for Human Life
Kenneth and Marshall share one mic and OK gets his own. Big tech guys are tailoring online discourse for right wing climate change deniers. So instead of any leadership discussing decades of ecocide we’re stuck on woke homeless people. We think about Octavia Butler and Mike Davis and how it isn’t enough to know and … Continue reading "213 – This Country is Unfit for Human Life"

212 – The First Spectrum President
Marshall, Kenneth, and OK in what’s maybe the most neurotic host configuration yet buzz little poems in your ears about the trains, the violence, the holigays, and prob other stuff?? I wish I could quit you, talking into microphones. Perhaps the show could improve with money, but there’s no money. I took the autism test, … Continue reading "212 – The First Spectrum President"

211 – Sigh Up
Kenneth joins us in our furry freako catbird seats to discuss Luigi’s big media moment. Could this valedicktorian fag be a fall guy? Manifesto or just a statement? Ghost gun or real gun? Why McDonald’s? Why thank the feds? Feels like a big thermometer check, how razzed up can we get, how much speech can … Continue reading "211 – Sigh Up"

DISPATCH – Wicked Winter and the WOKE 2 ERA
We of course have takes about the CEO shooter with a beautiful smile, but it’s paywalled 😈 Enjoy our takes on WICKED, they were FRESH AT THE TIME! We saw it OPENING WEEKEND, FOR ONCE! Our beautiful friends Chris Person, Andrea Guinn, and Fontaine Capel were there!! We also talked about the Bidens at the … Continue reading "DISPATCH – Wicked Winter and the WOKE 2 ERA"