Andrew and Jerry Remember 9/11

While originally planning on focusing exclusively on remembering and memorializing 9/11, Andrew and Jerry couldn't let the passing of Britain's Queen Elizabeth go by without some extensive discussion.  How do you square the deaths of figures who have complicated histories--what's an appropriate reaction. Elizabeth reigned for seven decades, and Britain was transformed during that time (as was the rest of the world).  The conversation ranges widely over sociological and anthropological changes, in which Andrew and Jerry touch on the transition from a needs-based society to a wants/demands-based one, how people have become more self-centered, and how the skewing of adoloesence upwards figures into all of this.

Then they talk about September 11th.  Jerry was on his way to New York as the attacks happened and Andrew was in DC, 2 blocks from the White House.  What does the date mean to them, and what did America's immediate coming together (only to fracture weeks later) auger for what's happening in America today.