Ali on the Run Show

"I'm like, 'Oh this isn't good! I'm locked inside of my own porta-john, 15 minutes before the start of the most prestigious marathon in the world, that I've been working on with everyone else for a year!' And I'm in a porta-john, and no one can hear me. And if I shake it too much, it's gonna fall over, and that's not good! Helicopters are circling above us, so you can't hear very well, so no one's hearing that I'm locked in the porta-john. So I had a choice…" Dave McGillivray is best known as the longtime race director for the Boston Marathon. (And every year, after fulfilling his race director duties, Dave returns to the start line in Hopkinton, MA, where he runs the marathon himself.) Dave is the president and founder of his own company, DMSE Sports, which is an event management business in Boston that has produced, directed, and consulted on more than 1,600 events around the world. Dave has run more than 165 marathons, he's an Ironman triathlete, and he's a World Marathon Challenge finisher. In this conversation, we go beyond Dave's personal and professional accolades — less about the logistics, and more on what drives him and what he gets out of doing all of this. We talk about what it really took to pull off directing two Boston Marathons in a six-month span. (If you remember, the 2021 Boston Marathon took place on October 11 because of the pandemic.) Dave shares some of his favorite Boston Marathon memories (including an unforgettable porta-potty story), and answers the question we're all asking: "Is racing back?" SPONSOR: New Balance — Click here to learn more about how New Balance is supporting conversations around mental wellness in running. (And check out my current favorite bra, pullover, and crop top.) What you'll get on this episode: What's making Dave happy right now (4:05) Dave's Boston Marathon porta-potty story (10:50) What were the greatest challenges in pulling off two Boston Marathons in a six-month span? (14:00) On being a local celebrity on race weekends, and how Dave takes care of himself during extraordinarily busy times (24:35) All about Dave's 50th running of the Boston Marathon (33:30) Dave's most memorable Boston Marathon moments (44:30) Is racing back? (1:02:00) What hasn't Dave done? (1:06:00) For more, check out: Dave McGillivray on Episode 424 of the Ali on the Run Show "The Future of Running" Live Show Follow Dave: Twitter @dmse Instagram @dmsedave Website Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I'm excited to just put myself in it and be a part of it and give myself a chance. I think incredible things happen when you believe in yourself and stay in the here and now and give yourself the chance." On June 11, 2022, Brigham Young University graduate Courtney Wayment Smith made NCAA history. Competing at NCAA Championships, she ran the 3000m steeplechase in 9:16 — not only taking a commanding win, but breaking the collegiate national record (previously held by now-Olympian Courtney Frerichs) in the process. That time also put her at #5 on the all-time U.S. women's steeplechase list, behind Frerichs, Emma Coburn, Colleen Quigley, and Jenny Simpson. To celebrate, Courtney signed with an agent (Ray Flynn) and signed her first professional contract with On! The icing on the cake: Courtney competed at USATF Outdoor Championships this past weekend, where she finished second in the 3000m steeplechase, earning her a spot on Team USA heading into next month's World Athletics Championships. Needless to say, it's been an exciting summer for Courtney, who lives in Provo, UT, and will continue training with her BYU coach Diljeet Taylor. SPONSOR: UCAN — Go to ucan.co/ali and use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order. What you'll get on this episode: On getting used to saying "I'm a professional runner" (3:10) How the pandemic impacted Courtney's college experience and her budding professional career (7:00) Why Courtney loves the steeplechase (9:00) On graduating from college, and celebrating accordingly (13:00) Recapping NCAAs, USAs, and the celebrations in between (14:20) What it felt like lining up at USATF Outdoor Championships, and all about the process of going pro (18:55) All about the 3000m steeplechase final at USAs (27:25) On navigating post-race interviews, mixed zones, media, and more (32:25) Courtney's special bond with Coach Diljeet Taylor (41:00) All about Courtney's signature hairstyle and those extra-long lashes (44:35) Where Courtney's at mentally as she prepares for World Athletics Championships (46:50) Follow Courtney: Instagram @courtsasport20 Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"This is the first time in so long that I've been lining up with teammates, and it makes it so much more special. There's nothing better than having a teammate who, even if you're not in the same heat, you're warming up together. There's less pressure because you're doing it together." Allie Wilson and Yolanda Ngarambe are two of the fiercest middle-distance competitors in running right now. But off the track? The Atlanta Track Club Elite teammates are fun, silly, and as giggly as it gets. In this conversation, Allie and Yolanda share the story of how they first met (Allie was running late, Yolanda saved the day) and how their instant bond was formed. We recorded this conversation on Friday morning, June 24, when Allie and Yolanda were both in Eugene, OR, for USATF Outdoor National Championships. Allie had just competed in the 800m prelims the night before and was resting up before the semi-finals that night. (She ultimately advanced to the finals, where she finished fourth in a very exciting race.) And while Yolanda (the Swedish indoor mile record holder!) awaits word on whether she'll get to represent Team Sweden at World Championships next month, she was in Eugene cheering for her teammates and managing the team's social media accounts (her first time on the other side of the mixed zone!). SPONSOR: Tracksmith. Click here and use code ALI22 to get free shipping. Plus, Tracksmith will donate 5% of your purchase proceeds to The Trevor Project. What you'll get on this episode: What Allie and Yolanda are doing in Eugene (3:20) Allie and Yolanda introduce each other (5:00) What the Atlanta Track Club Elite team dynamic is like (10:00) How Allie and Yolanda met and became friends (15:25) What Yolanda has to do to make Team Sweden for the World Championships (25:00) The lowdown on Yolanda's recent racing (26:00) All things USAs (38:00) What Yolanda and Allie are each like on race days (52:45) Yolanda and Allie shares the moments when they felt most proud of each other — and all about Allie's viral finish line moment in May (1:01:10) Check out: Allie Wilson on Episode 469 of the Ali on the Run Show Olivia Baker on Episode 491 of the Ali on the Run Show Allie's viral racing moment Follow Allie: Instagram @allie_oop9 Follow Yolanda: Instagram @yo.ngarambe Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"Don't berate, educate!" Devon Pass is a runner, a mom to daughter Evie, and a dear friend — and today, she's a podcast host! On this edition of Ask Ali, returning Ali on the Run Show guest Devon is here to do all the question asking, reading your questions from Instagram (and coming up with a few of her own). It's extra honest, extra fun, and even a little salty! ("I'm only salty behind a paywall." —Ali Feller) SPONSOR: goodr. Click here and use code ONTHERUN15 for 15% off your entire goodr order! Devon asks: Where did you learn to braid? (5:45) What is the best gift you've ever been given? (7:00) When was the last time you cried? (9:25) How many people are on your holiday card list? (12:25) Where are you at with your fitness pursuits? (14:55) What are we doing with our hair after summer runs? (22:15) Describe your ideal run (26:00) What do you listen to on the run? (28:15) Do you worry about aging? (34:15) What do you think is the biggest misperception of you? (41:30) Any advice for people in marriages with a lot of travel? (46:30) Are you determined to buy a house in your current area, or would you move elsewhere for the right house? (59:30) Ever considered releasing more video content or podcast video clips? (1:03:55) Can we ask what's going on with Shokz? (1:08:20) For more, check out: Devon Pass on Episode 369 of the Ali on the Run Show Dr. Carrie Jackson on Episode 517 of the Ali on the Run Show Celebrity Memoir Book Club podcast Be There in Five podcast Rich Roll podcast Deux U podcast Comments by Celebs podcast The Forgetting podcast The Ringer podcast network Dear Shandy podcast @mom.worthy on Instagram Follow Devon: Instagram @dev.on.running Blog Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"When I'm happy and feel safe and I'm energized by the people and things around me, that's when I'm going to run the best." Nikki Hiltz returns to the Ali on the Run Show for the fifth time — with some big news! Nikki is a professional middle-distance runner who is here to talk all about their new sponsor (it's lululemon!), their new coach (Mike Smith!), their new training partners (Rachel Schneider Smith!), their recent move to Flagstaff, and the first-ever in-person Pride 5K (it's happening IRL in Flagstaff in October!). Nikki and I recorded this conversation just a few days after they ran at the Trials of Miles Track Night NYC. That night, Nikki ran a personal best in the 800m, and returned to the track 50 minutes later to finish second in the 1500m. This week, Nikki will be competing at the USATF Outdoor Championships in Eugene, OR. SPONSOR: UCAN — Go to ucan.co/ali and use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order. What you'll get on this episode: On being a 1500m specialist (3:30) Why Nikki decided to open their season at Trials of Miles in NYC (3:30) "The Nikki Kick" (10:20) Nikki's new sponsor! (13:45) All about this year's Pride 5K (20:45) Nikki's decision to move to Flagstaff and train with Mike Smith (26:20) What Nikki's training has been like recently (32:20) Nikki's upcoming racing plans (36:00) Why selling T-shirts resurrected Nikki's hope in this sport (42:00) What Nikki has learned about authenticity and vulnerability (46:30) For more, check out: Nikki Hiltz on Episode 476 of the Ali on the Run Show Nikki Hiltz on Episode 294 of the Ali on the Run Show Nikki Hiltz on Episode 188 of the Ali on the Run Show Nikki Hiltz on Episode 170 of the Ali on the Run Show Trials of Miles Track Night NYC Register for the Pride 5K! Follow Nikki: Instagram @nikkihiltz Twitter @nikki_hiltz Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"You convinced me to come out for a run. And thank god I did. Everything has snowballed from that run." What a treat today to get to welcome two of my favorite friends to Friendship Fest on the Ali on the Run Show! Jess Movold and Conor Nickel are New York City-based run coaches who met one fateful day several years ago at Mile High Run Club, where they were each auditioning to be instructors. Now, they are not only the best of friends, they also continue to work together: Conor is the Chief Operating Officer at The Fortitude Strength Club, which is co-owned by Jess's husband, Kyle, and is where Jess is also a coach. In this conversation, we get to know new-to-the-show Conor — a former runner at the University of Pennsylvania who has worked in the running industry for his entire adult life. (You'll love his stories from working the start line of the New York City Marathon!) And we get an update from fan-favorite Jess, who gave birth to her first baby, a boy very appropriately named Battle, when she was just 26 weeks pregnant. (The day we recorded this, Battle turned 11 weeks old! He's still in the NICU getting big and strong, and Jess continues to prove her strength by navigating new motherhood as a NICU parent.) Jess and Conor's friendship is filled with pride and admiration — and plenty of laughter. Also: There's a part in this conversation where Conor is talking about the tunnels underneath NYC, and Jess mentions people living down there. My mind went to fantasy-type stories — perhaps I've been watching Trolls too much lately with my daughter — but Jess shared the title of a book, The Mole People, which is about the homeless population that lives beneath NYC. I ordered myself a copy and am looking forward to digging in and learning about something I, clearly, had no idea about. (When Jess mentioned this, I responded, "Cool!" because I thought surely that wasn't real and was thinking it was adventure-seekers below the surface. It's not that at all. The more you know indeed.) SPONSOR: Tracksmith. Click here and use code ALI22 to get free shipping. Plus, Tracksmith will donate 5% of your purchase proceeds to The Trevor Project. What you'll get on this episode: What brought Jess and Conor to Mile High Run Club the day that they met (9:20) How Jess and Conor became friends (15:00) Why Conor resisted Jess's invitations to strength train with her — and what happened when he finally gave in (22:20) Is Conor single? (32:45) Conor's best stories from the New York City Marathon start line (35:35) Conor and Jess share their takes on adult friendships (48:00) Jess is a mom! (57:00) Conor and Jess share the moments when they felt proudest of each other (1:03:30) Check out: Jess Movold on Episode 486 of the Ali on the Run Show Jess Movold on Episode 249 of the Ali on the Run Show Jess Movold on Episode 147 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Jess: Instagram @jessmovold Instagram @runnersworldcoach Follow Conor: Instagram @conor_nickel Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I loved running. I had the best race of my life and I was so excited. That feeling! You know that feeling? And they took it away from me that day. Anyone should be able to excel at what they love without these roadblocks of discrimination." In 2019, 17-year-old Noor Abukaram ran the best, fastest cross-country race of her life at a local meet in Ohio. But when she checked the results afterward, her name wasn't there. She learned that she had been disqualified before the race even started. For wearing a hijab. Noor — who was raised in a Muslim family and started wearing a traditional head and neck covering as a teenager — shared her story from that day, of being disqualified for rules unbeknownst to her, and it quickly went viral. And so she turned her heartache into advocacy. She founded "Let Noor Run," a campaign to raise awareness about religious-based discrimination in sports and beyond. She successfully helped change the laws and legislation that protect the freedom of religious expression for athletes in Ohio. And at only 19 years old, she just starred in an ESPN film that premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival. SPONSOR: New Balance — Go to newbalance.com/beyondtherun to learn more about how New Balance is supporting conversations around mental wellness in running. (And check out my current favorite pullover, crop top, half-zip top, quilted pullover, and jacket.) What you'll get on this episode: What Young Noor was like growing up (3:30) How Noor became a runner (9:30) What Noor's early high school experience was like (14:00) Why wearing a hijab means so much to Noor (21:00) On attending an Islamic school but playing sports at the local public high school (25:00) The cross-country meet in Ohio that changed everything for Noor (30:50) How "Let Noor Run" was born (37:00) What it was like going viral (43:00) On seeing an opportunity for change in a crappy situation (50:30) Noor's willingness to be an advocate (53:30) Noor gives us all the "SB 181 101" — what it means and what it does as a law (59:20) How all of this has affected Noor's relationship with running (1:01:35) Noor's dreams for the future (1:04:20) Follow Noor: Let Noor Run Donate a Hijab Instagram @nooralexandria Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I have to trust that I have something I want to say, and just double down on that." Kate Fagan is one of today's most important voices in women's sports. She is the best-selling author of three books — and is best-known in the running community as the author of What Made Maddy Run, about University of Pennsylvania runner Madison Holleran. Kate spent seven years as a columnist and feature writer for ESPN, she was a regular panelist on ESPN's Around the Horn, and she was host of Outside the Lines. Today, she writes for Sports Illustrated, and is co-host of the Off the Looking Glass podcast. In this conversation, we talk about Kate's road to writing greatness, including why she never really wanted to be on TV, the compromises she made to herself along the way, and her time as a Division-1 basketball player struggling with her sexuality and identity while at the University of Colorado Boulder. She talks about the process of writing Split Image, and later writing What Made Maddy Run, and the emotions involved in both. Plus: all about Kate's recent TEDxBoston talk, her take on why we watch sports, and her wishes for the future of women's sports. SPONSOR: UCAN — Go to ucan.co/ali and use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order. What you'll get on this episode: What Kate's watching right now, and what's making her happy (4:30) All about Kate's writing process (8:00) On caring — or not — about what people think, why Kate never wanted to be on TV, and her dreams for a women-centric sports show (9:30) Kate's efforts to get women's sports covered by ESPN (24:30) Kate's TEDxBoston experience (28:45) "Stakes & Storylines" (35:20) How Kate got involved in sports (47:00) Kate's college dreams at University of Colorado at Boulder, and how she reflects now on her college experience (52:00) How Kate became a magazine writer and book author (58:00) Reflecting on Split Image and What Made Maddy Run (1:05:30) Writing as a therapeutic process (1:19:40) A day in the life of Kate Fagan (1:22:15) For more, check out: What Made Maddy Run by Kate Fagan All the Colors Came Out by Kate Fagan The Reappearing Act by Kate Fagan Ali's TEDxBoston talk Kate's TEDxBoston talk Split Image by Kate Fagan for ESPN Kara Goucher on Episode 525 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Kate: Instagram @ Twitter @katefagan3 Off the Looking Glass podcast Website Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"Some of my closest friendships are with women I compete against. So when I see them do the things that they're doing, it truly makes me believe even more in myself in terms of what's possible for me." Welcome to Friendship Fest, Season 2! This seven-week series is all about celebrating friendship on the run. We'll hear from some of our favorite running buddies — from the pros to the everyday runners — about how they met, the role running plays in their friendship, and what big goals and dreams they share for the future. We're kicking off Season 2 of this series with Boulder-based besties and professional marathoners Laura Thweatt and Emma Bates. They share the story of their first meeting in 2019 ("I decided then and there that Emma Bates was my girl crush," recalls Laura), they talk about how their friendship progressed, and they talk about their time training together as members of Team Boss (which Laura has since left — with Emma's support, of course). Lots of laughter, lots of awwwwws, and lots of inspiration about how best to show up for the important people in your life. SPONSOR: Tracksmith. Click here and use code ALI22 to get free shipping. Plus, Tracksmith will donate 5% of your purchase proceeds to The Trevor Project. What you'll get on this episode: The extended warm-up round (2:20) Emma talks about the first time she met Laura (18:50) The art of adult female friendships (23:20) Laura's decision to leave Team Boss — and Emma's reaction, after having just joined the team (32:00) Laura recaps her recent win in the citizen's division at the Bolder Boulder 10K (39:40) How Emma is feeling heading into World Championships next month (51:30) All about that post-marathon trip to Hawaii with Molly Seidel (1:01:15) What Laura and Emma are each like when the other is racing (1:08:20) Laura and Emma share the moments when they each felt most proud of their friend (1:11:50) Check out: Laura Thweatt on Episode 440 of the Ali on the Run Show Laura Thweatt on Episode 228 of the Ali on the Run Show Emma Bates on Episode 490 of the Ali on the Run Show Emma Bates on Episode 444 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Emma: Instagram @emmajanelbates Twitter @emmajbates Follow Laura: Instagram @lthweatt Twitter @thweatt11 Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I've tried to get better at knowing that I can't be everything to everyone. But I do want this to be a place where anyone who feels like they are a part of the running community can find something that they enjoy or that inspires them or motivates them or makes them feel good or teaches them something." Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, I'm flying through 37 randomly selected listener questions, sent in via Instagram Stories (I'm @aliontherun1), about everything from house hunting, podcast guest selection, and getting recognized on the run, to staying focused and what a day in the life is like. SPONSOR: goodr. Click here and use code ONTHERUN15 for 15% off your entire goodr order! You asked: Do you get recognized when you're out and about? (3:00) How do you stay focused when you're a multi-passionate person? (5:10) Was it hard switching from HOKA to New Balance? (8:45) Has the man from the TED Talk apologized about the Annie situation? (12:15) Can you make a Peloton hashtag for us? (It exists! Use #FriendsOfAliOTR) (13:15) How do you come up with series themes? (13:55) What was your favorite part of your Traverse City trip? (16:15) How do you decide who to interview? (18:05) What is the next email that you are going to send? (20:20) Where do you see yourself in five years? (21:35) Which race outside the U.S. do you want to go to? (21:50) If you could offer Annie — 30 years from now — one life nugget, what would it be? (23:15) What is a day in the life of Ali like? (24:45) How do you wipe sweat on the run? (30:50) What is making you excited these days? (31:10) Any update on the house hunting front? (35:50) What's your schedule for releasing episodes right now? (37:15) What is your favorite dessert? (39:20) Have you ever done a run streak? (39:40) What will the next great running invention be? (39:50) Are you coming back to Michigan next year for Bayshore? (40:00) Are you going to buy a house? (40:20) Do you do physical therapy on the regular? (40:25) How do you vet podcast guests? (41:00) What is something you want Annie to take from you, and what do you want her to take from Brian? (42:25) How is your Crohn's right now? (43:50) Do you have any lingering "niggles" from your injury? (44:00) Are you a timeline or specific goal-oriented person? (44:30) What's something you do for yourself each day? (44:40) What is your 5–10-year vision for Ali on the Run? (44:50) Tips for fitting in runs with a new baby (45:50) Would you rather deal with chafing or blisters? (47:00) Favorite season to run (47:15) Is your Notes app super organized or chaotic? (47:30) Is Brian a runner? (47:50) Are we any closer to an Ali on the Run 5K happening? (48:00) What did your mom get mad at you for most often? (48:05) Worth mentioning: My TEDxBoston Experience Elizabeth Holmes @eholmes Register for the WineShine Half Marathon! (Code ONTHERUN gets you $25 off!) Wellness In Motion Boston Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"It's been hard to swallow that there is no miracle. It's going to take time." It's been nearly one year since Kara Goucher came on the Ali on the Run Show to talk about what it was like being a part of the NBC Sports broadcast team during the Tokyo Olympics. Today, Kara returns with all kinds of updates. In this fun, wide-ranging conversation, Kara talks about how she has gotten more comfortable in her role as an NBC Sports Distance Analyst, and shares her broadcast plans for the summer. She talks about how she's honed her skills, and shares whether she still gets nervous to go live on air. Kara talks candidly about her recent Runner's Dystonia diagnosis, and what that means for her health, her running, and her family. Plus: parenting during difficult times, going through life as a highly sensitive person (same), and the possibility of a Kara Goucher and Des Linden podcast. SPONSOR: UCAN — Go to ucan.co/ali and use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order. What you'll get on this episode: What's making Kara happy today (3:30) How Kara's confidence has grown as a commentator, and how she's balancing TV jobs and motherhood (4:15) All about calling the Boston Marathon (18:00) Are Kara and Des Linden launching a podcast?! (22:10) An update on Kara's runners dystonia diagnosis, and what treatment she's trying now (26:25) All things motherhood and parenting during difficult times (42:30) For more, check out: Kara Goucher on Episode 411 of the Ali on the Run Show Kara Goucher on Episode 43 of the Ali on the Run Show Kara Goucher on Episode 86 of the Ali on the Run Show Kara and Adam Goucher on Episode 208 of the Ali on the Run Show What Made Maddy Run by Kate Fagan Follow Kara: Instagram @karagoucher Twitter @karagoucher Facebook Clean Sport Collective Podcast Blog Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I really felt strongly that sharing online would not only help hold me accountable to sticking with my goals and my values, but also would help other people to see that it's really normal to struggle, and it's OK to seek treatment, it's OK to seek help. And that even people who have had success don't necessarily have everything figured out." The past year hasn't been easy for professional runner Allie Ostrander. After a career that started out with a series of highs — like signing with Brooks, making her first world championships team, and getting to represent Team USA in Doha in 2019 — life lately has been challenging. In this candid conversation, Allie talks about the tough times and how she has gotten through them. She talks about living and dealing with an eating disorder, and about pursuing a treatment program last year before returning to competition at the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials, where she made it to the 3000m steeplechase final and ran a personal best. She talks about what life in the recovery program was like, about dealing with recurring injuries, and about how she handles her nerves on and off the track. Plus, how she's fallen back in love with running, racing, and the running community. SPONSOR: New Balance — Go to newbalance.com/beyondtherun to learn more about how New Balance is supporting conversations around mental wellness in running. (And check out my current favorite pullover, crop top, half-zip top, quilted pullover, and jacket.) What you'll get on this episode: What's making Allie happy today (4:05) How Allie got the role of pacer for the Trials of Miles steeplechase and 5K (5:45) On dealing with race day nerves, and why Allie gets nervous for everyday workouts (14:30) How Allie recently rediscovered her love for running, racing, and the running community (20:50) What life looked like last summer for Allie: injuries, eating disorder recovery, and the decision to share it all (23:50) What it was like leaving the treatment center to compete at the Olympic Track & Field Trials (31:00) The power of a quick cry in the bathroom (43:00) Allie's decision to end her contract with Brooks at the end of last year (45:00) What Allie's relationship with her body is like right now (53:00) What's next on the racing and coaching front (56:20) Allie's advice for people dealing with eating disorders, or people who know someone going through a difficult time (1:02:00) For more, check out: Allie Ostrander on Episode 170 of the Ali on the Run Show Allie Ostrander on Episode 162 of the Ali on the Run Show Trials of Miles Track Night NYC "Dear Body, I Love You," by Allie Ostrander for MileSplit Follow Allie: Instagram @allie_ostrander Twitter @allie_ostrander YouTube Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"There's a lot of bumps on the way up. And a lot of people see that final moment, the excitement, the emotion that took place. And it was such a genuine and real moment. But it's all because of the things leading up to that moment." Tara Davis is an Olympic long jumper. Hunter Woodhall is a Paralympic medalist. With their powers combined, they are the ultimate track and field power couple. And this week, Tara and Hunter announced their new lululemon partnership: The engaged duo are now sponsored by lululemon as Global Ambassadors for the brand. In this conversation, we hear all about how the lululemon deal came to be, and about why this was the perfect fit for Tara and Hunter. The social media savvy couple also talks about what it's like sharing so much of their lives online: Collectively, they have more than 3 million followers on TikTok, 667,000 Instagram followers, and 421,000 YouTube subscribers. Plus, what a day in the life is like for two professional athletes, their love story, wedding planning updates, and what it's been like skyrocketing into the public eye after last summer's U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team Trials. SPONSOR: UCAN — Go to ucan.co/ali and use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order. What you'll get on this episode: All about the lululemon partnership (4:35) What a day in the life of Tara and Hunter is like (9:50) Tara and Hunter talk about what their new race kits will look like, and what training has been like lately (11:40) The love story: Tara and Hunter met, started dating, and eventually got engaged (18:15) All about Tara and Hunter, content creators (26:45) What it was like skyrocketing to fame after last summer's U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials (31:35) How Hunter has saved Tara's life, in her words (44:40) Tara's a-ha moment, when she realized her role in the sport (48:00) What's next? (50:40) Wedding planning updates! (53:55) For more, check out: YouTube: Tara & Hunter in NYC Follow Tara & Hunter: YouTube Instagram @hunterwoodhall Instagram @_taarra_ Tara's TikTok Hunter's TikTok Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"What do I love most? I want to fricken win. And I want to hurt. And I want to see how fast I can go." What a treat to get to host a live show with the legendary Des Linden this weekend at the Chateau Chantal winery as part of the Bayshore Marathon festivities in Traverse City, MI. Des has been on the show a lot — six times, to be exact — so the goal with this show was to try and learn something new about everyone's favorite runner. And? Mission accomplished. We played an opening game of Would You Rather. We got to know Little Kid Des, Teen Des, College Des (and Beer Mile Des), AOL Instant Messenger Des, and the Des who lives with a chip on her shoulder. We talked about how Des got into broadcasting, and what her TV plans look like for 2022, and talked about her racing plans, including the upcoming B.A.A. 10K and what she's eyeing for the fall. She shared her Boston Marathon 2022 takeaways, talked about dealing with a sports hernia injury, and reflected on her first-ever marathon (the good, bad, and ugly). Plus: the most fun Des has ever had during a race, whether she actually throws back a bourbon after every race, the race where she says everything clicked for her, and what she says is "the best racing advice" for every runner. For more, check out: Bayshore Marathon Chateau Chantal Word by Word Listen to Des on the Ali on the Run Show: Episode 462 Episode 363 Episode 205: Love on the Run with Des & Ryan Linden Episode 100 Episode 77: Live in San Diego Episode 64 Follow Des: Instagram @des_linden Facebook Twitter @des_linden Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"It felt important to me. And so I sent the email. I took my own advice, and I sent the email." On Monday, I had the honor of giving a TED talk. In this episode, I'm talking all about my experience speaking at TEDxBoston's "Epic Strides" event, celebrating women in sport and the 50-year anniversary of the passing of Title IX. I share how I got this opportunity, my hesitations, and how it went. Plus, I share the talk itself. SPONSOR: New Balance — Go to newbalance.com/beyondtherun to learn more about how New Balance is supporting the conversations around mental wellness in running. (And check out my current favorite pullover, crop top, half-zip top, quilted pullover, and jacket.) What you'll get on this episode: How I got the opportunity to be a TEDx speaker (2:00) On figuring out what to talk about (11:00) The rehearsal and preparation process (15:00) The week of TEDxBoston (23:00) Why I got really stressed the night before the event (38:00) My TED talk! (53:20) For more, check out: Emily Saul on Episode 510 of the Ali on the Run Show Emily Saul & Ian Nurse on Episode 474 of the Ali on the Run Show Emily Saul on Episode 59 of the Ali on the Run Show What Made Maddy Run by Kate Fagan Alexandra Angelone: TEDxBoston Hair & Makeup Artist Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"From the start, it was like, I'm gonna deal with this, but I'm not going to let this take over. I'm not going to let it take my life away. I'm not going to let it take my happiness away. So I do it, and I deal with it, and some days are really tough, but I still want to live my life." In January, 13-time marathoner Saila Consalvi was told she'd be lucky if she could watch this year's Boston Marathon, let alone run it. And yet, four months later, she defied expectation: She completed the 2022 Boston Marathon. In this conversation, Saila talks about what it took to complete her third Boston Marathon, and about her road to the start line, which hasn't been easy. In 2017, Saila was 35 years old and had just completed her ninth marathon and her first Ironman. She was in the best shape of her life. But soon, things just felt...off. Then, she was diagnosed with Stage IV non-small cell lung cancer. Today, Saila — who is from Finland — lives in Denver, CO, with her husband and their four-month-old son, Enzo. SPONSOR: UCAN — Go to ucan.co/ali and use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order. What you'll get on this episode: Why Saila ran Boston with "Sally" on her shirt (3:40) Saila's story about running Boston with Peloton instructor Jess Sims (6:00) Saila's Boston Marathon recap (8:00) Saila's advice for runners who are raising money for charity (14:20) How Saila got into running (16:35) Saila's lung cancer diagnosis (24:00) On fear, and adjusting to life with cancer (37:30) How Saila remains optimistic in the face of so much bad news (52:00) How Saila found the strength to get to the Boston Marathon start line (56:50) For more, check out: Jess Sims on Episode 516 of the Ali on the Run Show "My Beauty Uniform: Saila Hanninen," via Cup of Jo Follow Saila: Instagram @saila_jaksaa JAKSAA Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"Let's just go out with a bang." Steph Bruce finished 12th at this year's Boston Marathon. The professional runner for HOKA NAZ Elite ran a 2:28, and while it wasn't her fastest time at the 26.2-mile distance, Steph says Boston 2022 ranks up there as one of her best and favorite marathons. And this year's race was unique for Steph: It's her last year competing as a professional athlete. Last year, Steph was diagnosed with a congenital heart condition, and that discovery forced her to start making some tough choices. She decided that 2022 would be her last year running professionally — and that she would go out with a celebration. Steph is calling this year her "Grit Finale," and she's taking fans along for the ride. (Check out her Boston recap on YouTube here.) In this conversation, Steph talks all about that life-changing diagnosis, about her Boston training, about race day, and about her thoughts on life after professional running. As always, an open, honest, candid conversation with one of the sport's most-loved athletes. SPONSOR: goodr. Click here and use code ONTHERUN15 for 15% off your entire goodr order! What you'll get on this episode: How Steph is feeling post-Boston (4:00) All about "The Grit Finale," and the life-changing diagnosis that led to Steph's last professional year on the run (6:20) What Steph needed to include in her last year of racing (17:30) How Steph was feeling heading into her last Boston Marathon (20:40) Steph recaps her Boston training, and why (and how!) she makes racing a family affair (23:55) Steph's feelings of imposter syndrome early in her career, and how she feels now (29:00) Steph's story from the church (31:25) How Steph was feeling on the start line, and how the race played out (33:00) Making the move at mile 22 (46:00) The Grit Finale finale (50:45) Steph's thoughts on her legacy (55:00) For more, check out: Steph Bruce on Episode 104 of the Ali on the Run Show Steph & Ben Bruce on Episode 206 of the Ali on the Run Show Steph Bruce on Episode 354 of the Ali on the Run Show Steph Bruce on Episode 371 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Steph: Instagram @stephrothstein Twitter @steph_rothstein Facebook Blog YouTube Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"It takes a lot to get to a start line. I never take that for granted." Shalane Flanagan has run the Boston Marathon six times: four times as a professional athlete; once as a retired pro, the day after racing the Chicago Marathon; and now, as a guide. Shalane is a four-time Olympian, an Olympic silver medalist, and the 2017 New York City Marathon champion. She is a coach, a New York Times best-selling cookbook author, and a mom to two-year-old Jack. After racing the Boston Marathon in the fall as part of Project Eclipse, Shalane returned to Boston this year — and it was different than any other time she had run the race. Because this time, Shalane's race wasn't about the pursuit of a podium or a personal best. She ran the race as Adrianne Haslet's coach and guide in the para athletics division. In this conversation, Shalane talks about coaching Adrianne, about her own training for this race, and about her goals as Adrianne's guide. She shares her favorite memories from the course, and talks about what's next both on and off the run. SPONSOR: UCAN — Go to ucan.co/ali and use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order. What you'll get on this episode: Shalane's memories of meeting Adrianne Haslet (4:10) Shalane's history with the Boston Marathon (6:15) Shalane's most profound memory from this year's Boston Marathon (10:30) On experiencing running a marathon in the middle of the pack (17:30) All about the crowds from Hopkinton to Boston (21:00) What it was like coaching Adrianne for Boston (25:45) What Shalane's Boston training was like (30:00) The race plan (37:00) How Shalane kept the focus on Adrianne on race day (41:55) Shalane's favorite parts of the Boston Marathon course, and what the finish line was like (47:30) The toughest parts of the day (51:50) Shalane's top Boston memories from over the years (54:20) What hasn't Shalane done? (58:25) How Shalane fit this experience into her life (1:00:20) The weight of the past year and a half (1:04:20) For more, check out: Adrianne Haslet on Episode 514 of the Ali on the Run Show Adrianne Haslet on Episode 506 of the Ali on the Run Show Adrianne Haslet on Episode 192 of the Ali on the Run Show Shalane Flanagan on Episode 462 of the Ali on the Run Show Shalane Flanagan on Episode 438 of the Ali on the Run Show Shalane Flanagan on Episode 242 of the Ali on the Run Show Mary Kate Shea on Episode 247 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Shalane: Instagram @shalaneflanagan Twitter @shalaneflanagan Facebook Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"We know you can push through. We know you're capable of that. A sign of your mental toughness isn't pushing through — it's can I hold back?" On March 5, I went out for a 13.1-mile run. A few miles into the run, my lower left leg started to hurt. I cut the run short and limped home. By that night, I could barely walk. I was dealing with my first real running injury. Two months later, I'm back on the run — but I never received an official diagnosis, I'm a bit trepidatious about running again, and I'm overwhelmed trying to remember how I even fit running into my life pre-injury. I thought I would be itching to get back on the run, but I'm...not? Enter Carrie Jackson. Carrie is a certified mental performance consultant with a Master's degree in sports psychology. She's the author of On Top of Your Game: Mental Skills to Maximize Your Athletic Performance, and co-author of Rebound: Train Your Mind to Bounce Back Stronger from Sports Injuries. She and Rebound co-author Cindy Kuzma also host The Injured Athletes Club podcast (and check out their Facebook group). This conversation is akin to a live therapy session with Carrie, where I'm the patient. If you've ever wondered what it's like working with a sports psychologist or mental performance coach, consider this an intro for all of us. (And I'm thrilled to report that this past weekend, I raced a 5K, had a blast, and am slowly starting to feel reinvigorated about running.) SPONSOR: New Balance — Go to newbalance.com/beyondtherun to learn more about how New Balance is supporting the conversations around mental wellness in running. (And check out my current favorite pullover, crop top, half-zip top, quilted pullover, and jacket.) Follow Carrie: Instagram @feedtheathlete The Injured Athletes Club Website Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"She said, 'This is how it was supposed to be. This is how it was supposed to feel.' And at that moment, I realized the magnitude of what we gave to each other." Fan favorite Jess Sims is back — and this time, she returns to the Ali on the Run Show as a marathoner! On April 18, the beloved Peloton instructor surprised the world by showing up at the start (and finish!) line of the Boston Marathon. And she had a good reason for keeping her marathon debut on the down-low. In this very special conversation, Jess talks about receiving a fateful message from Boston Marathon bombing survivor Michele Blackburn last December — a message that ultimately guided Jess every step of the way toward that finish line on Boylston Street. Jess talks about her training, about how she felt on the start line, and about why she still feels marathon imposter syndrome, even after earning that blue and yellow medal. (You'll want tissues on hand 17 minutes into this one. You've been warned.) SPONSOR: UCAN — Go to ucan.co/ali and use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order. What you'll get on this episode: How Jess is celebrating — her dog's birthday, that is (4:40) All about that fateful message from Michele Blackburn (6:25) What happened after Jess committed to running the Boston Marathon, and what her training was like (23:30) Why Jess kept her Boston Marathon plans a secret (34:50) Why Jess gets nervous talking about her marathon experience (42:15) How Jess was feeling when she arrived in Boston (46:00) The ride to the start line (50:00) What it was like running the 2022 Boston Marathon (56:00) On seeing Michele at the finish line (1:01:45) The physical and emotional recovery (1:05:30) Running with Usain Bolt! (1:16:35) For more, check out: Jess Sims on Episode 261 of the Ali on the Run Show Kirsten Ferguson on Episode 505 of the Ali on the Run Show Becs Gentry on Episode 379 of the Ali on the Run Show Matt Wilpers on Episode 398 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Jess: Instagram @jsimsfit Website Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"It was the fear of the unknown — but that was what I loved also. I don't want to do something I know I could finish or know I could do. I want to do this thing that's going to be really hard… and there was no stopping me." At 14 years old, Lottie Bildirici — a lifelong New Yorker — went from being a happy-go-lucky high schooler to a cancer patient. A lump on her neck turned out to be Hodgkin's Lymphoma, and Lottie immediately began chemotherapy treatments. She was the sick kid. But as she recovered physically (and was given a cancer-free diagnosis!), Lottie realized she had lost her identity. Who was she without cancer? And it was running that helped her redefine herself. Lottie completed a half-marathon at Disney World, and a passion for the sport was immediately ignited. She started learning more about health and nutrition — but soon lost her way. In this conversation, Lottie talks about growing up in the kitchen, and about how a love for food led her down a scary path with orthorexia and recurring stress fractures. She talks about creating her blog and Instagram account, Running on Veggies, and about working with professional athletes including Kara Goucher and Stephanie Bruce. Today, Lottie is a nutrition coach for adidas, she's an Ironman triathlete (she completed her first Ironman on the 10-year anniversary of her cancer diagnosis), and she's a published author. Her first cookbook, Running on Veggies, came out earlier this year. SPONSOR: The WineShine Half Marathon — Register today for the inaugural event, happening July 16, 2022, and use code ONTHERUN to get $25 off your registration. See you in Napa! What you'll get on this episode: What Lottie had for breakfast today, and how she's celebrating life right now (6:10) Lottie's love for cooking (8:00) On writing a cookbook (10:30) What life was like for Lottie in high school, when she received a life-changing diagnosis (12:00) How Lottie started running, and her experience with orthorexia and recurring stress fractures (23:15) How Lottie started working with professional athletes including Kara Goucher and Stephanie Bruce (35:25) What it's like when Lottie works one-on-one with clients (39:50) Lottie's food philosophy (43:00) Lottie's job with adidas, and what a day in the life of Lottie Bildirici looks like (45:00) Lottie's decision to complete an Ironman on the 10-year anniversary of her cancer diagnosis (48:15) The role running plays in Lottie's life right now (55:00) For more, check out: Jonathan Cane on Episode 313 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Lottie: Instagram @runningonveggies Website Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I can close my eyes still and remember every sign and every person's face and every dog. I can remember all of it. It was a true unicorn of a day." Adrianne Haslet went through hell to get to the start line of the 2022 Boston Marathon. But she got there. And then, she started in Hopkinton and ran 26.2 miles — with guide Shalane Flanagan by her side every step of the way — to cross the finish line on Boylston Street. Adrianne and Shalane finished the race in 5:18:14, coming in fourth place in the para athletics division. Today, Adrianne returns to the Ali on the Run Show to share every detail of what she calls the best day of her life. ("It sounded like a Rocky movie the whole way," she says.) Plus, Adrianne's favorite moments from the course, all about that finish line feeling, and what "Boston Strong" means to her. SPONSOR: Shokz — Use code OTR15 for 15% off wireless headphones. What you'll get on this episode: Adrianne's Boston Marathon expectations — and how reality compared (3:00) How Adrianne is recovering after Boston, and who's in her village (6:15) How Adrianne spent her weekend leading up to Marathon Monday (13:50) All about race morning (27:40) Adrianne's stories from the church in Hopkinton (34:50) Adrianne and Shalane's race plan (44:30) The start line and the early miles (46:30) All about the support along the way (53:05) On making it to the Boston Marathon finish line (1:04:10) What does Boston Strong mean to Adrianne? (1:07:00) For more, check out: Adrianne Haslet on Episode 506 of the Ali on the Run Show Adrianne Haslet on Episode 192 of the Ali on the Run Show Adrianne Haslet in the Washington Post Cortney White on Episode 447 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Adrianne: Instagram @adriannehaslet Twitter @adriannehaslet Facebook Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"This is the time in my life where I'm trying to do whatever I can to be the fastest I can and get the furthest in running that I can. So anything that is not working toward that goal just doesn't make any sense." For the second year in row, professional marathoner Nell Rojas had a big day in Boston. She finished 10th overall at the 126th Boston Marathon, running a personal best (2:25:57), and finishing as the top U.S. woman in the field. In this conversation, Nell talks Boston beyond the numbers. She talks about the pre-race press conference and about breaking some big news before the race: After signing with adidas earlier this year, Nell recently ended that partnership in favor of racing in shoes that she felt better suited her body. She talks about that difficult decision, and about how it weighed on her during her Boston build-up. Plus, she talks about her pre-race routine, about how the race played out, and about what's next. SPONSOR: The WineShine Half Marathon — Register today for the inaugural event, happening July 16, 2022, and use code ONTHERUN to get $25 off your registration. See you in Napa! What you'll get on this episode: All about Nell's Boston buildup (4:30) The Boston Marathon press conference experience (8:40) Nell talks about sponsorship stuff (11:00) How Nell decided what to wear on the run (17:40) Nell's goals for this year's Boston Marathon (20:15) How the race played out (26:30) How this year's race compared to Boston 2021 (29:30) Nell's pre-race routine (33:30) What the later miles in the race were like (37:20) Nell's High / Low / High from Marathon Monday (42:35) What happens after the finish line (46:10) What's next on the sponsorship front and beyond (49:40) For more, check out: Nell Rojas & Hiruni Wijayaratne on Episode 484 of the Ali on the Run Show Nell Rojas on Episode 434 of the Ali on the Run Show Nell Rojas on Episode 431 of the Ali on the Run Show Nell Rojas on Episode 229 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Nell: Instagram @nell_rojas_running Twitter @nellrojas Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"When our smartphones are at 10 percent, we panic. We freak out… When our bodies are running on 10 percent, when our headspace is running on 10 percent, why don't we have that same sense of urgency to look for an outlet, to recharge? We keep going. We allow ourselves to fully deplete before we ask to borrow a charger." Peloton instructor — and newly published author — Tunde Oyeneyin returns to the Ali on the Run Show today. In this conversation, Tunde reflects on how her life has changed since she was last on the show in December 2020. Her Peloton classes are now taken by hundreds of thousands of people. She has amassed more than 520,000 followers on Instagram. She's the face of Revlon, and the host of the Fitness Flipped podcast. And her first book, Speak, comes out next month. Today, Tunde talks about her running journey: why she runs, when she craves a run, and what keeps her running. Plus, she offers advice on boundary setting, saying no ("Every time I say no to someone, I feel myself getting my power back"), getting unstuck, and so much more. SPONSOR: New Balance — Go to newbalance.com/beyondtherun to learn more about how New Balance is supporting the conversations around mental wellness in running. (And check out my current favorite pullover, crop top, half-zip top, quilted pullover, and jacket.) What you'll get on this episode: Tunde Oyeneyin, podcast host! (3:55) What mental wellness means to Tunde, and how she has learned to say no and set boundaries (8:30) Tunde's running journey (18:50) The downsides to all the good stuff (27:30) All about Tunde's new book, Speak (32:00) Tunde's advice for how to find your voice (40:00) How to get un-stuck, and how to figure out what's next (43:50) How Tunde recharges (53:00) For more, check out: Tunde Oyeneyin on Episode 311 of the Ali on the Run Show Kirsten Ferguson on Episode 505 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Tunde: Instagram @tune2tunde Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"This weekend I was like, 'I just want to be me, and see where I can go with that. I don't want to conform. I don't want to turn off who I am to fit into the existing landscape.'" After 1,099 days, the Boston Marathon was back on Patriots Day! And I was there! On this episode, I'm talking (for a very long time) all about my weekend in Boston, where I hosted a live show with Tracksmith (listen to it here), was the post-race on-camera interviewer for the world feed broadcast (!!!), and made my Boston Marathon finish line announcing debut. It was a nonstop weekend filled with great people, exciting events, and a big leap out of my comfort zone and onto live (global!) television. So before we get into the interviews with people who ran the race (Nell Rojas and Adrianne Haslet, coming next week!), here's my recap of the 2022 Boston Marathon from the sidelines, the media trucks, the finish line, and the photo bridge. SPONSOR: Shokz — Use code OTR15 for 15% off wireless headphones. What you'll get on this episode: All about Friday fun: press conferences, The TRACK at New Balance, and more (4:40) The Saturday sessions: B.A.A. 5K spectating, introverting, Tracksmith live show, and more (23:15) Easter Sunday celebrations: running and family time (37:00) How I got these jobs (41:15) Behind the scenes of the broadcast prep work (48:20) All about Marathon Monday! (57:20) Listener Q&A (1:20:20) Mentioned in this episode: Jacky Broersma on Episode 504 of the Ali on the Run Show Erin Azar on Episode 446 of the Ali on the Run Show Jenna Fesemyer on Episode 508 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

Boston is BACK! It was such a privilege to get to host a live recording of the Ali on the Run Show at the Tracksmith Trackhouse during the 2022 Boston Marathon weekend, with the ever-delightful recent podcast guests Anoush Arakelian and Emily Saul. This conversation was filled with great advice, hilarious stories, and — because why not? — dating talk. Thank you to Tracksmith for hosting us; thank you to Emily and Anoush for the wit, wisdom, and laughter; and thank you to everyone who joined and was part of the fun! SPONSOR: Tracksmith. Click here and use code ALI22 for free shipping, plus 5% of the proceeds from your order will be donated to the Brave Like Gabe Foundation! Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"The people who read my blog and supported me — whether we met in real life or from afar — they saved my life on my worst days." Laura Green is a runner, a mom to two boys, and a dear friend — and today, she's a podcast host! On this edition of Ask Ali, returning Ali on the Run Show guest Laura is here to do all the question asking, reading your questions from Instagram (and coming up with a few of her own). We do a chronological Ali deep dive, from the college days, to the pre-podcast blogging days, to life today with a 3.5-year-old. SPONSOR: goodr. Click here and use code ONTHERUN15 for 15% off your entire goodr order! Laura asks: The warm-up round (3:30) "Pre-podcast Ali" questions (10:40) Podcast-related questions (27:00) Parenting questions (42:00) For more, check out: Laura Green on Episode 157 of the Ali on the Run Show Hotel Lobby Spa Candle lululemon Wunder Train Bra lululemon Enlite Bra Tracksmith Allston Bra Follow Laura: Instagram @lauramcgreen Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"Doctors said when I was born that I would be the last one to sit up, the last one to crawl, the last one to stand and walk. Well, I was the first to do all those things." Jenna Fesemyer was born with a birth defect called proximal femoral focal deficiency, where one leg is shorter than the other. At one year old, she had her foot amputated. And she immediately defied her doctors' expectations. As a teenager, she discovered wheelchair racing, and now, she's a Paralympian who represented Team USA in Tokyo last summer. (The Paralympic marathon was just the beginning of Jenna's fall marathon season: She then raced the London, Chicago, Boston, and New York City Marathons.) This weekend, Jenna heads to Boston where she will race in the professional women's wheelchair division in both the B.A.A. 5K on Saturday and the Boston Marathon on Monday. Jenna is sponsored by Oiselle, and she is currently studying education policy at the University of Illinois (and she'll begin her doctorate program in the fall!). SPONSOR: Shokz — Use code OTR15 for 15% off wireless headphones. What you'll get on this episode: What's making Jenna happy right now (3:50) All about wheelchair racing and training safety (4:45) Jenna's plans for Boston Marathon weekend, and why she's able to race so frequently (7:20) Reflecting on the 2021 Boston Marathon (16:30) All about Jenna's childhood, and living with proximal femoral focal deficiency (20:10) How Jenna got into wheelchair racing (24:40) Jenna explains her positioning in her chair (32:30) Jenna's Paralympic dreams, and the choices and sacrifices she has had to make to pursue them (34:20) How Jenna became a Oiselle-sponsored athlete (41:20) What Jenna wishes people understood about adaptive athletes (43:00) How to spot Jenna at the Boston Marathon (51:50) Follow Jenna: Instagram @jenfesemyer Website Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"She's my person." Silvana Morgan is a nurse, a runner, and a mom to two daughters. A few years ago, she was running a race when she saw a fellow runner up ahead wearing "a really cute outfit." But when the course split — half marathoners to the left, other race distances to the right — Silvana, who is from Brazil and says she's now living her dream with her family in New Hampshire, didn't get a chance to meet that runner and tell her she liked her outfit. That runner, it turned out, was commercial truck driver, marathoner, and outdoor enthusiast Yuma Haidara. Later that day, Yuma posted about her race in New Hampshire's She Runs This Town Facebook group. Silvana saw the post, recognized the woman in the photo as the woman from the race, and a friendship was born. The two — now best friends — have been inseparable ever since. This is their friendship story. SPONSOR: Tracksmith. Click here and use code ALI22 to get free shipping. Plus, Tracksmith will donate 5% of your purchase proceeds to the Brave Like Gabe Foundation. What you'll get on this episode: How Yuma and Silvana met (4:20) What it was like when Yuma and Silvana met in person for the first time (7:40) On running and racing together, and Silvana's tips for stroller running (10:25) How Silvana started running (12:45) How Yuma knew her friendship with Silvana was special (15:00) What Silvana's childhood was like growing up in Brazil (16:30) All about Yuma's 2021 New York City Marathon race — in a pair of Oofos sandals (19:20) Silvana's road to becoming a nurse (27:30) What's next on the run for Yuma and Silvana? (31:00) All about the Mount Washington Road Race — where "there's only one hill" (39:30) How work is going for Yuma and Silvana (46:00) All about Yuma's Oofos commercial! (48:50) All about Silvana and Yuma's matching racing outfits (54:00) Pride (1:00:30) Check out: Great Bay Half Marathon Home Base Program She Runs This Town Follow Yuma: Instagram @yumahaidara Follow Silvana: Instagram @sissilmorgan Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"What will get us to the finish line is nothing compared to what got us to the start." In 2013, professional ballroom dancer Adrianne Haslet was walking near the Boston Marathon finish line when the bombs went off. She lost her leg that day, standing on Boylston Street. Then, in 2019, Adrianne — who had become a runner herself after her lower leg amputation — was walking on Commonwealth Ave. when she was hit by a car. Even in the face of so much unexpected adversity, Adrianne hasn't lost her fighting spirit. She's a survivor, an advocate, an inspiration — and on Monday, April 18, she'll return to both Comm Ave. and Boylston Street, but this time it will be en route to her own marathon finish. Adrianne will be racing in the Boston Marathon's para division alongside friend and official guide Shalane Flanagan. In this conversation, Adrianne talks about training under Shalane's guidance, about how she's feeling with race day just a week and a half away, and about what she's doing now to prepare for the potential post-marathon blues. She also talks about the emotional component of running a race that she has such a heavy history with, and about what she pictures when she imagines her finish line moment. SPONSOR: New Balance — Go to newbalance.com/beyondtherun to learn more about how New Balance is supporting the conversations around mental wellness in running. (And check out my current favorite pullover, crop top, half-zip top, quilted pullover, and jacket.) What you'll get on this episode: How Adrianne is feeling with less than two weeks to go until the Boston Marathon, and reflections on this training cycle (6:00) On returning to Boston after DNF-ing the 2018 race (11:00) What it's been like moving during marathon training, and how Adrianne met her boyfriend, Harry (15:30) All about Adrianne's running leg (23:00) How Adrianne and Shalane Flanagan met and became friends (25:15) What it's like being coached by Shalane (34:20) The low and high points from Boston 2022 training (43:25) How the weather affects Adrianne's leg (57:30) The mental and emotional components of returning to the Boston Marathon (59:00) All about Adrianne's upcoming IMAX film (1:02:55) Adrianne's guide to Boston (1:10:00) For more, check out: Adrianne Haslet on Episode 192 of the Ali on the Run Show Shalane Flanagan on Episode 438 of the Ali on the Run Show Shalane Flanagan on Episode 242 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Adrianne: Instagram @adriannehaslet Twitter @adriannehaslet Facebook Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"There was a moment where I looked at myself in the mirror and said, 'Whoa, this is what you're meant to do. This is it.'" Kirsten Ferguson is living her dream. She once wrote "Become a Peloton instructor" on a Post-It note, and today she's doing exactly that. (And she still has the manifestation-filled Post-It.) The Peloton Tread instructor is a single mom of two, and the road to this dream life hasn't been an easy one. Kirsten grew up with aspirations of working in the fashion industry. But when she enrolled at the Fashion Institute of Technology, she quickly realized that she wanted to do something completely different. She ended up getting a job working in sponsorships with the NFL, where she worked for seven years before leaving and having children. Along the way, Kirsten suffered two miscarriages. That's when she found fitness. Kirsten leaned into cycling classes during her darkest, most isolating, and most challenging days. On their third try, Kirsten got — and stayed — pregnant. In this conversation, she's honest about what new motherhood was like for her, and about what happened when she had just become a fitness instructor and was going through a separation when the pandemic hit. She talks about how she got the Peloton job and about how she became a runner, about creating the "Ratchet Mom Club," about being at the Super Bowl for Beyoncé's epic halftime show, and about why she welcomes fear into her life. SPONSORS: Shokz — Use code OTR15 for 15% off wireless headphones. The 2022 Bayshore Marathon — Sign up for this year's marathon and 10K, taking place May 28th in Traverse City, MI. What you'll get on this episode: How Kirsten's latest Peloton class came together (5:45) Why Kirsten takes her own classes (7:50) What Young Kirsten was like (10:40) On going to the Fashion Institute of Technology — and then having a change of heart and working for the NFL (13:00) Kirsten's road to motherhood (22:50) How Kirsten found fitness (29:30) What new motherhood was like for Kirsten (35:30) How Kirsten found her purpose (40:45) How Kirsten overcame her fear of public speaking (49:15) On getting the Peloton job, and what happened next (50:50) What does a Peloton producer do? (58:30) All about the Ratchet Mom Club (1:01:40) On learning to call herself a runner (1:05:00) For more, check out: Fear is my Homeboy by Judi Holler Follow Kirsten: Instagram @iamkirstenferguson Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I'm tired. But I'm feeling pretty good. I've got a job to do and I need to do it and that's kind of it. I'm on a mission. I just need to get it done." Jacky Hunt-Broersma is on a quest to run 100 marathons in 100 days. That's 26.2 miles every single day for 100 days straight, while raising money for Amputee Blade Runners. We recorded this episode together at 8 AM on Day 75. Jacky — a running coach and ultramarathoner whose next goal is the Moab 240 Endurance Run — had just gotten her two kids off to school, and was getting ready for marathon number 75. In this conversation, we get to know the Jacky today, who is more than 3/4 of the way through her record-setting challenge. And we get to know the 26-year-old Jacky from 2001, who woke up one day with a golf ball-sized mass on her leg. She was diagnosed with Ewing sarcoma, a rare cancer, and had her leg amputated just weeks after the diagnosis. It wasn't until 15 years later that Jacky started running, and she says her only regret is that she didn't start sooner. In this conversation, Jacky talks about the highest (running with her daughter!) and lowest (Day 35) points of this 100-marathon challenge, about dealing with mom guilt along the way, and about her plans for marathon #92, which she'll run in the para division of the Boston Marathon. SPONSOR: Atlanta Journal-Constitution Peachtree Road Race — Registration for this year's virtual Peachtree is now open! Click the link to be a part of this historic 10K today. What you'll get on this episode: How Jacky was feeling at 8 AM on Day 75, and her plan for the day (5:20) How Jacky got through an especially tough run recently (9:50) Jacky's running must-haves (16:00) How Jacky is feeling emotionally (17:40) All about the recovery process during this adventure (19:40) How Jacky is involving her children and family in this process (23:00) Jacky's cancer story, and how she found running (25:50) Learning to run with a running blade (39:20) All about Jacky's 100 marathons in 100 days challenge (44:00) Jacky's plans for the Boston Marathon, and for marathon #100 (51:00) Jacky's most memorable marathons so far — and the day that "nearly broke her" (53:15) Follow Jacky: Instagram @ncrunnerjacky DONATE Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I said, 'You definitely have this win. Don't be so scared anymore.'" Last weekend, two-time Olympian Dominique Scott Efurd won the first-ever elite division at the Atlanta Women's 5K. And while it may have been her first time breaking the tape this year, Dom's 2022 is off to a solid start. In January, she finished third at the Houston Half Marathon. Then, she finished second at The TEN. And this weekend, she'll race the Cooper River Bridge Run. In this conversation — Dom's first time back on the show since late 2020 — Dom talks about her recent races, about the challenging start to 2021, which included a tibial stress reaction and a case of Covid, and about her experience representing Team South Africa at the Tokyo Olympics last summer. Dom is sponsored by adidas, and she lives in Boulder, CO, where she trains with Team Boss. SPONSOR: The 2022 Bayshore Marathon. Go to BayshoreMarathon.org to sign up for this year's marathon and 10K, taking place May 28th in Traverse City, MI. What you'll get on this episode: How it felt to break the tape at the Atlanta Women's 5K (5:30) On being the race starter at the Atlanta Women's 5K (13:45) All about that 5K in Atlanta (16:00) How Dom is feeling heading into the Cooper River Bridge Run 10K (23:15) On finishing second at The TEN (24:30) Dom talks about the tough times she's faced over the past two years (40:00) What Dom remembers most from the Tokyo Olympics, and recapping the Houston Half Marathon (47:00) Dom's marathon dreams (1:04:40) All about the social media side of the sport (1:08:40) Follow Dom: Instagram @domscottrunsa Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I've just been struggling to survive. To figure out how to survive. I want people to see me and say, 'OK, let's not look at what we think people are.' Because everybody has their own struggles. Life is tough!" Earlier this month, I found myself glued to my phone, rabidly refreshing the Humans of New York Instagram account, waiting for updates in the 13-part story about a woman in Augusta, GA. The woman was Venus Morris Griffin. Today, she's a hugely successful realtor and mom of seven. But the road to becoming one of Meybohm Real Estate's leading agents (Venus has closed more than $500 million in sales she she started with the agency) has been anything but easy. In fact, it still isn't easy, Venus says. In this conversation, Venus talks about her difficult childhood, about falling in love with a man at USC, and about having six children together. She talks about being home with the kids — the youngest was just one year old, and the oldest was 15 — while her husband was away on a work trip, and getting a call in the middle of the night from a sex worker. A call that changed everything. Not only was Venus's husband, Tripp, sleeping with sex workers, Venus also learned that there was sexual abuse within the home. Today, Tripp is serving a 45-year sentence for child molestation. Here, Venus talks about how she kept moving forward, how she showed up for her children and for herself, and why she started running to get through it all. Plus, she talks about what it was like having her story shared widely through Humans of New York, and both the amazing (a book! a movie!) and less-amazing (losing clients and sales) responses. SPONSORS: Shokz — Use code OTR15 for 15% off wireless headphones. St. Jude Rock 'n' Roll Nashville — Use code ONTHERUN10 for $10 off your registration for this year's races, taking place April 23–24. What you'll get on this episode: How Venus is celebrating her 50th birthday (5:20) All about being featured on Humans of New York (8:00) On vulnerability, and how Venus started running (15:15) What Venus's childhood was like (21:20) Meeting Tripp (23:30) The role of faith in Venus's life (31:40) The scary moments in Venus and Tripp's marriage, and why Venus decided to get her real estate license in 2008 (33:50) The middle-of-the-night phone call that changed everything (43:00) What life looked like after Tripp went to prison (52:30) How Venus navigated motherhood (1:02:40) Follow Venus: Instagram @venusmorrisgriffin Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I could tell he wasn't mentoring me because he wanted it to be this public thing that made him look good. I wasn't his charity case." Dinée Dorame had a dream: to launch a podcast that would explore the intersection between running, land, community and culture. So she applied for the first-ever Tracksmith Fellowship program — and she won. Dinée was one of the first recipients of a Tracksmith Fellowship grant, which gave her the support she needed to bring the Grounded podcast into existence. She was also paired with a mentor: Mario Fraioli, host of The Morning Shakeout podcast and creator of The Morning Shakeout newsletter. Dinée and Mario started as total strangers, formed a fast mentor-mentee relationship, and now, one year later, are close friends with a "big brother, little sister" bond. In this conversation, they talk about their first phone call, the first time they met in real life, and how their differences have made their relationship stronger. SPONSOR: Tracksmith. Click here and use code ALI22 to get free shipping. Plus, Tracksmith will donate 5% of your purchase proceeds to the Brave Like Gabe Foundation. What you'll get on this episode: How Dinée and Mario became paired together as mentor-mentee through the Tracksmith Fellowship (5:20) All about Dinée and Mario's first phone call (15:15) How a phone call became a friendship (26:10) On podcast rejection! (37:00) Dinée and Mario share the moments when they felt especially proud of each other (44:00) On finally getting to meet in real life (48:00) All about Common Ground (55:00) For more, check out: Dinée Dorame on Episode 402 of the Ali on the Run Show Dinée Dorame on Episode 239 of the Ali on the Run Show Mario Fraioli on Episode 266 of the Ali on the Run Show Lauren Fleshman on The Morning Shakeout Dinée Dorame on The Morning Shakeout Billy Mills on the Grounded podcast Ali Feller on The Morning Shakeout Follow Dinée: Instagram @dinee_pink22 Grounded podcast Follow Mario: Instagram @mariofraioli Twitter @mariofraioli Website Subscribe to The Morning Shakeout newsletter Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"It was pretty tough, I'm not gonna lie. I walked off the track pretty mad. I didn't want to talk to any cameras, so I walked past the camera people because I knew they were just going to drill me with a bunch of questions that I didn't want to talk about. And I hadn't even had time to digest it myself. So I was about to say something I probably shouldn't have on camera. So I said, 'I'm making this boundary for myself,' and I kept walking." Elle Purrier St. Pierre is one of the fastest women in the country. The professional New Balance athlete just capped off her indoor season by earning a silver medal in the 3K at World Indoor Championships in Serbia. In 2020, she broke the American record in the indoor mile. Then, last summer, she won the 1500m event at the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team Trials (and set a Trials record for that event), solidifying her spot on Team USA and achieving a lifelong dream of becoming an Olympian. Elle — widely known as a small-town farm girl from Vermont — is living the professional runner dream, right? On this episode, Elle talks about the tough times. She talks about getting shoved off the track just seconds into that 1500 final at the Trials, and about how she rallied to win the race. She talks about handling disappointment on the track, like when she finished third in the 1500 at USAs a few weeks ago, a race she was heavily favored to win. And she talks about that — about being "heavily favored," and what that pressure feels like. Plus, reflections on competing in Tokyo, dealing with the post-Olympics blues, and pre-race bad moods. Welcome to Episode 500 of the Ali on the Run Show! SPONSOR: New Balance — Go to newbalance.com/beyondtherun to learn more about how New Balance is supporting the conversations around mental wellness in running. (And check out my current favorite pullover, crop top, half-zip top, quilted pullover, and jacket.) What you'll get on this episode: All about Elle's run today, and what it's like being a local celebrity in Vermont (3:50) Where Elle's keeping her silver medal, and what her goals were for the 3K at World Indoor Championships (8:45) How Elle stays tough when the racing gets hard, and what she's like before the race starts (11:20) On getting shoved off the track at last summer's Olympic Track & Field Trials 1500m final (16:00) Dealing with high stakes (22:00) How Elle navigated an injury heading into the Olympics (29:30) What Elle remembers most from the Tokyo Olympics (35:00) On dealing with the post-Olympics blues (40:30) What farm life is like for Elle (42:45) How Elle prepares and re-sets for a new racing season, and what it's like going into each race as "the favorite" (45:15) On dealing with disappointment after finishing third at USA Indoors and missing out on Team USA for that distance — and coming back to win the 3K (49:00) On being asked "What's next?" all the time (59:30) The most fun Elle has ever had on the run (1:02:15) For more, check out: Elle Purrier on Episode 210 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Elle: Instagram @elleruns_4_her_life Twitter @ellepurrier Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I got off the plane, looked out at the mountains, and just felt this sense of relaxation. Like this is where I'm supposed to be, this is where life is good. And it made no sense!" Laura Skladzinski was a dancer and theater kid growing up. She, like many of us, hated having to run the mile in gym class. Then, at 24 years old, Laura became the youngest person at the time to complete a marathon in all 50 states, and she has gone on to run more than 100 marathons and a few ultramarathons. So, what changed? In this wide-ranging conversation, Laura talks about how she became a runner, and what her approach to running is like. She talks her decision to move from New York City to Colorado, and about becoming a town trustee in her new hometown of Superior, CO. She also talks about how difficult that role has been over the past few months, after fires tore through the town at the end of 2021. She shares what that day was like as both a homeowner in Superior and as an elected official, and about why she has decided to prioritize mental health needs both for herself and for her community in the wake of those fires. Laura works as a management consultant, and when she's not working or on the run, she's a ski instructor at Beaver Creek, a Meals on Wheels volunteer and driver, and a camp counselor at Experience Camps for Grieving Children. SPONSORS: Atlanta Journal-Constitution Peachtree Road Race — In-person registration for the July 4th event is now open! Click the link to register for this historic (Betty-endorsed!) 10K today. Shokz — Use code OTR15 for 15% off wireless headphones. What you'll get on this episode: On being a town trustee in Superior, CO — and receiving more votes than any candidate in history! (6:00) What brought Laura to Colorado (8:30) What Young Laura was like (13:40) How Laura found and fell in love with running (17:15) Why Laura decided to try and run a marathon in every state (25:30) How Laura felt when she completed the 50 states challenge (31:00) Laura talks about being featured in a national JetBlue campaign (34:15) How Laura got so fast, and what her approach to running is like (36:45) How Laura became a ski instructor at Beaver Creek (44:30) On taking a break, taking a leave of absence from work, and prioritizing mental health (48:00) What it was like being in Superior, CO, during the fires a few months ago (52:00) Why Laura chose to prioritize community-wide mental health needs after the fires (57:45) On being a volunteer counselor at Experience Camps for Grieving Children (1:05:30) For more, check out: This Is Me table read Follow Laura: Instagram @50by25 Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"It's just those people when you instantly connect, and they're one of your people. She was one of those people. And it's so hard to find those people as adults, as we all know. She was that easy connection, easy talking to. Everything just felt like it was meant to be and meant to happen." Cara Enright Welsh and Cameron Erhardt are two of the nicest people on the planet — so it's no surprise this episode is warm fuzzy central. Cara and Cam met when they were both part of Nike's Project Moonshot marathon training program, and they say they became best friends the very first day they met. They immediately bonded over their mutual love for Taylor Swift and NYC "Emo Nights" ("Stay sad!"), their respective roles as the oldest of four siblings, and a shared birthday (November 5, 1990). In this conversation, Cara (a former competitive jump roper) and Cam (a former NCAA Division-1 runner) recall the day they met, and talk about the challenge of making friends and finding running buddies as an adult. Plus, Cam's stories of overcoming tough times mid-marathon and how he learned to keep moving forward, and updates from Cara on her Boston Marathon training and her relocation plans. SPONSOR: Tracksmith. Click here and use code ALI22 to get free shipping. Plus, Tracksmith will donate 5% of your purchase proceeds to the Brave Like Gabe Foundation. What you'll get on this episode: How Cam and Cara met (4:45) The role running played early in Cara and Cam's friendship (13:20) On being "twins" — and some astrology talk (24:20) Cam and Cara's biggest differences, and how they're navigating a long-distance friendship (30:15) What running looks like for Cam and Cara right now (38:55) How to make running friends as an adult (46:00) The moments when Cara and Cam have felt especially proud of each other (53:50) Check out: Cara Enright on Episode 376 of the Ali on the Run Show George Waldron Salon Follow Cara: Instagram @therealcaraenright Twitter @careenright Follow Cameron: Instagram @camzor13 Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I've made it here. I'm good with that. I'm going to start this race as me. However I finish, I'm still me." I love a live show! The day before the United Airlines NYC Half (thanks to New Balance, New York Road Runners, and the 1 Hotel Central Park South), I had the pleasure of hosting a live recording of the Ali on the Run Show with returning podcast guests Becs Gentry and Nev Schulman. (Shout-out to the live audience: You were a great crowd, and you were so much fun! Thank you for being there.) This banter-filled conversation covered everything from Becs and Nev's approaches to running and dealing with dark moments on the run, to peeing in the ocean and mastering the art of "The McDash." You'll laugh, you'll gasp (the collective sound in the room when Nev asserted that treadmill running "isn't real running," oh my...), and I hope you'll enjoy. (Oh, and by the way: The fastest marathon ever on a treadmill was run by former Ali on the Run Show guest CJ Albertson! He covered 26.2 miles on a treadmill in 2:09:58.) SPONSOR: New Balance. Click here to learn all about the conversations New Balance is having to promote mental wellness. Follow Becs: Instagram @becsgentry Follow Nev: Instagram @nevschulman Twitter @nevschulman Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"Even though I've been doing this for a while, and I've been working for myself for a long time, I still have a hard time making my own rules." Julia Berteletti is a runner, a mom, and a dear friend — and today, she's a podcast host! On this edition of Ask Ali, returning Ali on the Run Show guest Julia is here to do all the question asking, reading your questions from Instagram. We cover everything from favorite foods and "stranded on a desert island" scenarios, to podcasting, motherhood, running, and more. SPONSOR: goodr. Click here and use code ONTHERUN15 for 15% off your entire goodr order! Check out: Julia Berteletti on Episode 458 of the Ali on the Run Show Julia Berteletti on Episode 157 of the Ali on the Run Show Kyle Merber & Chris Chavez on Episode 489 of the Ali on the Run Show Tracksmith Allston Long Shorts Lululemon Wunder Train Bra New Balance FuelCell RC Elite Fair Play Life Cards Follow Julia: Instagram @griffeletti Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"That Saturday when I set the record and I was in the tent waiting for them to start the awards ceremony, dozens of people came up to talk to me, and they were from all over the United States! I couldn't imagine why. I'm just doing what I like to do!" Betty Lindberg is a local legend in her hometown of Atlanta, GA. She started running at 63 years old, and now, at 97, she's breaking world records. Last month, Betty ran the USATF Master's 5K Championships in Atlanta, and set a new world record for the 95–99 age group. (She finished in 55:48, smashing the previous record by more than 30 minutes.) Breaking that record was no accident: Betty is fiercely competitive (mostly with herself), and she takes her training seriously. (She works out six days a week. On the seventh day, she rests and enjoys her weekly hair appointment.) In this conversation, Betty shares her running story, talks about where her competitive drive comes from, and talks about her mid-race mimosa stops at the Peachtree Road Race every year. She's a legend for a reason! SPONSORS: Shokz — Use code OTR15 for 15% off wireless headphones. Atlanta Journal-Constitution Peachtree Road Race — In-person registration for the July 4th event is now open! Click the link to register for this historic (Betty-endorsed!) 10K today. What you'll get on this episode: On being a local legend (5:20) Betty's competitive nature, and what it was like when she broke her first world record at age 91 (7:45) What Betty's training and workouts are like (9:30) All about the day Betty broke the 5K record (12:30) How Betty celebrated her record (17:30) How Betty started running — at age 63! (19:15) On growing up in the 1930s: "You didn't take part in any sports!" (23:15) Why Betty wanted to run a half marathon (26:00) Why Betty loves virtual racing (29:00) The hip replacement that got Betty running again (37:00) All about Betty's workouts and favorite classes at the gym (40:00) Betty's advice for how to keep running into our late nineties (44:00) What Betty is proudest of, and her advice for loving running (49:00) Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I don't think I would've done it if Grace hadn't. I remember saying two things: One, 'The data says you can do it.' And two, thinking about Grace." Jenny Grimshaw and Grace Keller have only been friends for a few years, but in that time, they've helped each other dream bigger and chase down exciting running goals. Their first endeavor together: to qualify for the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials. On this episode, Jenny and Grace talk about meeting when they were both living, working, and running in New York City, and share how they're now making a long-distance friendship work. (Jenny lives in San Francisco with her husband and their new baby, Tate, and she works for Glossier. Grace and her husband, a professional baseball player, live in Charlottesville, VA, where she works in the finance and investment banking industry.) Their friendship is a special one that's rooted in their unwavering support and admiration for one another. (Be prepared to shed a tear or two when Grace talks about what she wrote in her journal after Jenny raced that California International Marathon.) SPONSOR: Tracksmith. Click here and use code ALI22 to get free shipping. Plus, Tracksmith will donate 5% of your purchase proceeds to the Brave Like Gabe Foundation. What you'll get on this episode: How Grace and Jenny met (5:25) How Grace and Jenny became friends (9:45) On training to qualify for the Olympic Marathon Trials (14:30) Reflecting on Grace's Philadelphia Marathon in 2019, when she qualified for the Olympic Trials (22:00) Looking back on Jenny's CIM race in 2019, when she qualified for the Olympic Trials (31:45) What it was like getting to run the Olympic Marathon Trials together (35:15) How Jenny and Grace got so close (48:15) Why Jenny and Grace's recent visit in San Francisco was so powerful and important (51:30) What's next on the run for Jenny and Grace (58:00) Jenny and Grace's proudest moments in their friendship (1:02:20) Check out: Jenny Donnelly on Episode 215 of the Ali on the Run Show Jenny & Judi Donnelly on Episode 193 of the Ali on the Run Show Take the Bridge Follow Jenny: Instagram @jenny_gshaw Follow Grace: Instagram @gracebkeller Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"These women are stone-cold killers on the track, so you're just like, 'I can't believe you feel that way!' But it's really helpful for anyone who's dealing with that to know, 'Hey, these women had to overcome that.' It was hurting their performance for a while and they had to figure out a way." Molly Huddle and Sara Slattery are incredible runners, incredible women, wonderful role models, and now, they can officially say they are published authors. Today, professional runner Molly Huddle and former pro Sara Slattery are here to talk all about their new book, How She Did It. Consider this book the ultimate roadmap for female distance runners. It includes advice from experts, plus stories, interviews, and profiles from 50 legendary women in the sport (many of whom you know, love, and have heard right here on the Ali on the Run Show). In this conversation, Molly and Sara talk about the inspiration for the book, how it actually came to be, and how they tackled the difficult task of which stories to include in the book. Plus, they talk about their friendship, Sara talks about being the head men's and women's cross-country coach at Grand Canyon University (she coaches one of Sara and Ryan Hall's daughters!), and Molly offers a pregnancy update (she's due at the end of April!). SPONSOR: The WineShine Half Marathon — Register today for the inaugural event, happening July 16, 2022, and use code ONTHERUN15 to get $15 off your registration. See you in Napa! What you'll get on this episode: How Molly and Sara met (4:55) Where the idea for "How She Did It" came from (8:00) What adult runners can take from this book (12:30) The process of getting a book published (14:50) How Sara and Molly decided who to include in the book (18:50) How do you know when you've made it? (23:40) The stories Molly and Sara knew needed to be in the book (27:20) The biggest surprises from the book (36:20) What it's like coaching Sara and Ryan Hall's daughter (44:00) The personal reflections inspired by the book (46:45) On taking the mental side of training seriously (50:00) The women Molly and Sara are excited about right now (55:45) How do we not feel discouraged by doping in the sport? (58:30) Molly and Sara's advice for longevity — and unlimited PRs — in the sport (1:02:40) Molly offers a pregnancy update (1:07:20) Check out: How She Did It Molly Huddle on Episode 51 of the Ali on the Run Show Molly Huddle on Episode 66 of the Ali on the Run Show Molly Huddle on Episode 259 of the Ali on the Run Show Molly Huddle on Episode 391 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Molly: Instagram @mollyhuddle Twitter @mollyhuddle Website Follow Sara: Instagram @saraslattery Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I found myself when I found running." Stephanie Roth Goldberg is a psychotherapist, licensed clinical social worker, and certified eating disorder specialist in New York City. And when she offers a listening ear and advice for her clients, she's able to do that as both a trained professional and as someone who personally has been through it. In this conversation, Stephanie shares her experiences with substance abuse and addiction and disordered eating as a teen and young adult. She talks about going to rehab for the first time at 14 years old, and about how she ultimately found recovery. And she talks about finding running — and finding herself in the process. In addition to sharing her story on this episode, Stephanie — who is an an Ironman and mom of two living in Montclair, NJ — offers advice about developing a healthy relationship with exercise, dealing with anxiety, and building a mental wellness toolbox (or Caboodle). SPONSOR: New Balance — Go to newbalance.com/beyondtherun to learn more about how New Balance is supporting the conversations around mental wellness in running. (And check out my current favorite jacket, joggers, and long-sleeve shirts.) What you'll get on this episode: What Stephanie was like as a teenager, and her experiences with substance abuse and an eating disorder (6:00) How Stephanie found running (24:00) How Stephanie's relationship with running has evolved, and whether that relationship has always been healthy (31:30) How do you know if your relationship with running is healthy? (35:45) On triggers (40:30) Intuitive eating 101 (41:45) How Stephanie became an Ironman (44:10) What running looks like for Stephanie right now (50:30) How to deal when "something's gotta give" (55:00) Stephanie's favorite form of self-care (1:01:30) For more, check out: Rachel Wyman on Episode 281 of the Ali on the Run Show Rachel Wyman on Episode 166 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Stephanie: Instagram @embodiedpsychotherapist Website Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I was a complete mess. I was so emotional about it, so excited, so just…relieved to have come in, having a lot of momentum, knowing this was a possibility, and then completing a mission." Olivia Baker is on fire. The professional runner for Atlanta Track Club Elite just competed at the USATF Indoor Track & Field Championships where she finished second in the 800m, officially making her first senior world championship team. She'll head to Serbia later this month to represent Team USA at Indoor World Championships. In this conversation, Olivia reflects on the road to Team USA, including dealing with disappointment after last summer's U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team Trials, weighing the decision of whether or not to attend medical school, and ultimately joining Atlanta Track Club Elite instead. She gushes about her teammates, talks about the tough times and low moments, and shares her confidence journey. Plus, commentating, book clubs, chocolate milkshakes, and more. SPONSORS: Shokz — Use code OTR15 for 15% off wireless headphones. St. Jude Rock 'n' Roll Nashville — Use code ONTHERUN10 for $10 off your registration for this year's races, taking place April 23–24. What you'll get on this episode: How it feels to be representing Team USA, and what the start line felt like at USATF Indoor Track & Field Championships (4:50) On knowing when it's time to kick (6:45) That finish line feeling (10:15) Did this feel like the "more" Olivia wanted two years ago? (14:15) Olivia's relationship with Ajeé Wilson (14:50) What Olivia's training will look like between now and World Championships in Serbia, and what the travel there is expected to be like (18:45) The impact Olivia's coaches and teammates have had on her (25:30) What Young Olivia was like, learning to get over being "obsessively afraid of racing," and how she's learned to deal with disappointment (35:45) Olivia's decision not to attend medical school last year (40:45) Why Olivia joined Atlanta Track Club Elite (45:30) On confidence, commentating, and book clubs (51:00) For more, check out: Allie Wilson on Episode 469 of the Ali on the Run Show "Dear Younger Me," by Olivia Baker for MileSplit A Beautiful Work in Progress by Mirna Valerio Grit by Angela Duckworth Let's Get Physical by Danielle Friedman Running For My Life by Lopez Lomong The Power by Naomi Alderman Tom Holland on Lip Sync Battle Follow Olivia: Instagram @obaker64 Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"We have all become the women we are today because of other women." —Emma Bates It was a great privilege to get to host this virtual live show on International Women's Day with three UCAN-sponsored professional athletes: Sara Hall, Emily Sisson, and Emma Bates. All three of these women were fresh off three different races — the Tokyo Marathon for Sara, a win at the Gate River Run 15K for Emily, and The TEN on the track for Emma — so in addition to recapping their recent race experiences, we also talked about the power of women in sports. Sara, Emily, and Emma talk about the women who have pushed and inspired them in their respective careers, they talk about who they love racing against, and they talk about confidence on and off the roads. SPONSOR: UCAN — Go to ucan.co/ali and use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order. For more, check out: Sara Hall on Episode 459 of the Ali on the Run Show Sara Hall on Episode 321 of the Ali on the Run Show Sara Hall on Episode 300 of the Ali on the Run Show Sara and Ryan Hall on Episode 144 of the Ali on the Run Show Emily Sisson & Shane Quinn on Episode 479 of the Ali on the Run Show Emily Sisson on Episode 394 of the Ali on the Run Show Emily Sisson on Episode 234 of the Ali on the Run Show Emily Sisson on Episode 169 of the Ali on the Run Show Emma Bates on Episode 444 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Emma: Instagram @emmajanelbates Twitter @emmajbates Follow Emily: Instagram @em_sisson_ Twitter @em_sisson Follow Sara: Instagram @sarahall3 Twitter @sarahall3 Facebook Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"We're track and field's biggest hype people, and we want to share the joy of the sport with as many people as possible." You'll be hard-pressed to find anyone who loves track and field more than the dynamic duo ("the greatest bromance in track and field") of Chris Chavez and Kyle Merber. This week, we're turning our Friendship Fest attention to the guys. Chris is the founder of Citius Mag, host of the Citius Mag podcast, former Sports Illustrated journalist, director of the Magic Boost program, and one of the nicest, hardest-working people in the industry. Kyle is a former professional runner (a 3:52 miler! he won the Millrose Games mile as a high schooler!) who retired in 2020, and now works full-time for American Express while also managing The Lap Count newsletter and navigating life as a new dad. Chris and Kyle started as friends (you'll get that full story in this episode), and now work together as collaborators and track and field commentators. In this conversation, they share their enthusiasm for the sport, talk about what it's like when they run together (it's more fun for one of them than it is for the other), and share their big dreams for the future. SPONSOR: Tracksmith. Click here and use code ALI22 to get free shipping. Plus, Tracksmith will donate 5% of your purchase proceeds to the Brave Like Gabe Foundation. What you'll get on this episode: Chris and Kyle recall their first meeting (7:00) Why Kyle wanted Chris to help tell his retirement story (11:50) How Chris and Kyle are working together right now (14:25) Chris and Kyle, track and field commentators (22:45) What to expect from Chris and Kyle this summer (33:15) On running together (35:15) What Chris and Kyle are excited about in running right now (37:40) Chris and Kyle share the moments when they were especially proud of each other (44:00) Check out: Chris Chavez on Episode 262 of the Ali on the Run Show Trials of Miles The Real Maine documentary Citius Mag podcast: Kyle Merber Exit Interview and The Importance of Sharing the Athlete Story The Magic Boost program Follow Chris: Instagram @chris_j_chavez Twitter @chrischavez Citius Mag Follow Kyle: Instagram @kylemerber Twitter @TheRealMerb Subscribe to The Lap Count Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"It could be two o'clock in the afternoon and the sun's beating down on us, and I'm just smiling. I'm gritting my teeth through the afternoon sun, and still believing I can push through it." On February 18, renowned ultra runner Camille Herron made history — again. The queen of the ultra scene ran and won the USATF 100-Mile Road Championships in Henderson, NV, and not only won the race outright (the first male finisher was half an hour behind her), she broke her own 100-mile world record by 89 seconds, finishing in 12 hours 41 minutes and 11 seconds. That's a 7:36 per mile pace on an 85-lap course. On this episode, Camille (who turned 40 on Christmas) talks all about that race, including how she prepped for it, her goals going into the race, and how she has tweaked her training and lifestyle habits in order to "age like a fine wine," she says. Plus, how she got into running and ultras, and where her always-happy demeanor came from. SPONSORS: Shokz — Use code OTR15 for 15% off wireless headphones. St. Jude Rock 'n' Roll Nashville — Use code ONTHERUN10 for $10 off your registration for this year's races, taking place April 23–24. What you'll get on this episode: How Camille's feeling since running the USATF 100-Mile Road Championship (4:05) What Young Camille was like, and how she found and fell in love with running (6:25) Reflecting on the USATF 100-Mile Road Championship, and what Camille's goals were going into the race (14:00) What Camille's training is like (18:25) Why Camille started working with a registered dietitian (23:50) The lifestyle choices Camille has made recently so she can perform at her best (32:45) All about the 85-lap 100-Mile Road Championship course, and how Camille broke it down mentally (36:35) How Camille was feeling at the start line (44:30) The pressure of being Camille Herron (47:00) How Camille felt during the first half of the race (49:25) How Camille pushed through the "dark parts" of the race (55:00) That finish line feeling (59:30) How Camille celebrated (1:05:00) Camille's advice for the ultra-curious (1:08:00) For more, check out: Camille Herron in the New York Times Follow Camille: Instagram @runcamille Twitter @runcamille Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"When I met Aisha, I was like, 'Oh, we're gonna be friends forever.'" Emily Infeld and Aisha Praught Leer are professional runners and Olympians, and despite never sharing a coach, team, or hometown, they have the type of friendship that transcends all of that. On this episode, Aisha and Emily talk about how they met, share their first impressions of each other, and talk about how they bonded long-distance in the early days of their professional careers. We get some big life updates: Emily officially announces who she's being coached by since leaving the Bowerman Track Club, and Aisha talks about how her return to running has been going since having surgery to repair her torn meniscus after last year's Tokyo Olympics. Plus, LOL-worthy stories about Emily behind the wheel, Aisha in the pool, and so much more. SPONSOR: Tracksmith. Click here and use code ALI22 to get free shipping. Plus, Tracksmith will donate 5% of your purchase proceeds to the Brave Like Gabe Foundation. What you'll get on this episode: When and how Emily and Aisha met (6:00) Emily and Aisha recall their first impressions of each other, and talk about how their friendship progressed (10:55) The time Emily taught Aisha how to swim — kind of (18:00) On running together and making a long-distance friendship work (19:40) How Emily and Aisha are alike, and how they're different (26:00) What Emily and Aisha talk about, and what they're each like when the other is racing (38:00) What's new with Aisha (43:00) What's new with Emily (52:10) Emily and Aisha talk about moments when they've felt especially proud of each other (1:04:20) For more, check out: Emily Infeld on Episode 400 of the Ali on the Run Show Aisha Praught Leer on Episode 462 of the Ali on the Run Show Aisha Praught Leer on Episode 415 of the Ali on the Run Show Aisha Praught & Will Leer on Episode 204 of the Ali on the Run Show Aisha Praught Leer on Episode 197 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Emily: Instagram @emilyinfeld Twitter @emily_infeld Follow Aisha: Instagram @aishapraughtleer Twitter @aishapraught Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I didn't prepare for it. I wasn't ready for it. It was very, very hard, and dark, and scary." Welcome to the second episode in the new Beyond the Run series on the Ali on the Run Show. Twice a month, we're checking in with industry experts, professional runners, and everyday runners to talk about the intersection of running and mental wellness. (The first episode in this series with Dr. Ian Nurse and Emily Saul was a must-listen.) Today, running and strength coach Jess Movold returns to the show to talk about her pregnancy (she's currently 21 weeks along with her first baby, a boy!) and how she's coped with the physical and emotional changes in her life. It's an honest, vulnerable conversation about expectations vs. reality, dealing with dark days, and how life is changing on the run and beyond. SPONSOR: New Balance — Go to newbalance.com/beyondtherun to learn more about how New Balance is supporting the conversations around mental wellness in running. (And check out my current favorite jacket, joggers, and long-sleeve shirts.) What you'll get on this episode: Jess shares her experience running the Austin Half Marathon at 21 weeks pregnant (5:10) Jess's relationship with her dad (11:40) How Jess found out she was pregnant, and what it was like running the New York City Marathon a few weeks into her pregnancy (20:00) The story of Kelly (31:00) Expectations vs. reality (35:00) How Jess is dealing with the tough days (46:15) Body talk (50:00) Why Jess says mental wellness "is everything" (1:05:30) Jess offers runners a pre-race pep talk — and tries to convince us all to do 10 push-ups (1:08:30) For more, check out: Jess Movold on Episode 249 of the Ali on the Run Show Jess Movold on Episode 147 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Jess: Instagram @jessmovold Instagram @runnersworldcoach Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!