The Security Debt We Pretend Isn’t There
Unpacking RTO fallout, endpoint sprawl, tooling fatigue, junior workforce erosion
Adopting Zero Trust · Adopting Zero Trust
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Show Notes
As organizations push return-to-office (RTO) mandates and chase efficiency, many security teams are quietly accumulating debt they don’t know how to unwind.
In this episode, we are joined by Lea Cure Thorpe and Kayne McGladrey to unpack the less-discussed consequences of recent security decisions: RTO exposure, endpoint blind spots, tooling overload, analyst burnout, and the slow erosion of junior talent (thanks AI).
Rather than going too crazy on hot takes and obvious trends, we focus in on operational reality, business risk, and what security leaders need to confront before these issues compound further.
Where to Skim
02:00 | Is the perimeter really dead?
06:30 | RTO fallout and the return of local network risk
12:30 | Endpoint sprawl, dirty devices, and SOC fatigue
18:30 | Cloud tooling, visibility gaps, and false assurances
26:00 | AI adoption: risk appetite vs. reality
33:30 | Identity, agentic AI, and trust amplification risk
41:00 | Workforce erosion and the efficiency trap
50:30 | The business math CISOs can’t avoid
58:30 | Career development, communication, and relevance
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