A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

Fluoride conversations don't have to feel uncomfortable. In this Bonus episode, we're joined by Jen Post, RDH, MDH, FADHA, to discuss practical strategies for improving patient communication and increasing fluoride acceptance. Jen shares how hygienists can confidently address common patient concerns, simplify their messaging, and create more effective chairside conversations. We also explore how Clinpro™ Clear fluoride varnish supports both clinicians and patients with its clear appearance, smooth application, and comfortable feel—helping reduce objections and improve overall acceptance. Listeners will walk away with actionable tips to strengthen preventive care conversations and enhance the patient experience. About Our Guest Jen Post, RDH, MDH, FADHA is an Advanced Clinical Applications Specialist at Solventum with extensive experience in clinical practice, education, and research. She is a Fellow of the American Dental Hygienists' Association and brings a passion for practical, patient-centered care. What We Talked About How to approach fluoride conversations with confidence Common patient concerns and how to address them What makes Clinpro™ Clear different Strategies to increase case acceptance Call to Action Enjoyed this episode? Share it with a colleague and start improving your fluoride conversations today. This episode is sponsored by Solventum Dental Solutions. Resources: https://www.solventum.com/en-us/home/f/b5005503000/ https://s7d9.scene7.com/is/content/mmmspinco/clinpro-clear-brochure-ds-rps-enpdf Jen Post: [email protected] About the Company Solventum Dental Solutions builds on over 70 years of innovation to support dental professionals with trusted products and solutions that enhance patient care and clinical outcomes.

In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and David sit down with dental hygienist Angeli Walton to share her powerful story of recognizing early signs of a thyroid condition—within herself. What began as clinical awareness quickly turned into a deeply personal journey, as Angeli navigated the unexpected shift from provider to patient. Angeli reflects on how her training helped her notice subtle changes that might have otherwise gone overlooked, and how trusting those instincts ultimately led to early detection. The conversation explores the emotional and professional impact of experiencing healthcare from the other side of the chair, offering a unique perspective that many clinicians don't anticipate, but can learn from. Together, they discuss the broader role dental professionals play in identifying systemic health concerns, and why paying attention to small details can make a life-changing difference. Angeli also shares insights on self-advocacy and why it's critical for clinicians to speak up—both for their patients and themselves. This episode offers a meaningful reminder that the skills used every day in practice extend far beyond oral health, and can be just as important in protecting your own well-being. What We Talked About: Recognizing early signs of systemic conditions How clinical instincts can support early detection The experience of transitioning from provider to patient Why subtle symptoms shouldn't be ignored The importance of self-advocacy in healthcare If you found this episode valuable, be sure to subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share it with colleagues who are passionate about whole-body health and early detection. Resources: Email: [email protected] Instagram: @angeliwalton

Dry mouth isn't just uncomfortable—it can impact sleep, swallowing, oral health, and overall quality of life. In this TIPisode, we learn about Moisyn, a unique solution designed to provide lasting moisture and relief for patients dealing with xerostomia. Unlike traditional products that offer only temporary relief, Moisyn uses a mucoadhesive, moisture-retentive technology to help keep the oral environment hydrated longer. We also break down how clinicians can improve patient compliance, why dispensing products in-office matters, and how dry mouth solutions can impact long-term oral health outcomes. If you're seeing more patients struggling with dry mouth, this is an episode you don't want to miss. Learn More about Moisyn https://periosciences.com/products/moisyn-mist

In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with oral pathologist Dr. Bryan Trump to discuss the important role dental professionals play in identifying abnormalities and knowing when to refer patients to a specialist. Dr. Trump shares valuable insight into what clinicians might be missing during routine exams and how to strengthen their confidence when suspicious findings arise. The conversation dives into practical strategies for performing thorough oral cancer screenings, recognizing key red flags, and navigating patient conversations when something concerning is discovered. Dr. Trump also offers guidance on how clinicians can communicate pathology findings in a clear and compassionate way—helping patients understand the situation without causing unnecessary fear. This episode provides practical tips for dental hygienists and dentists who want to improve their screening protocols, referral confidence, and patient communication when dealing with potentially serious diagnoses. What We Talked About: How to confidently refer patients to specialists Essential tips for performing effective oral cancer screenings Recognizing concerning findings and clinical red flags Navigating difficult conversations about the possibility of cancer How to communicate pathology findings without unnecessarily scaring patients If you found this episode helpful, be sure to subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share the episode with colleagues who are passionate about improving patient care and early detection. Resources: Contact Dr. Bryan Trump: [email protected]

In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Joffree Bunleang to unpack one of the most challenging realities in professional advocacy—what happens when legislation doesn't go the way you hoped? The conversation centers around Oral Preventive Assistants (OPAs) and the evolving landscape of dental practice. Joffree brings clarity to what OPAs are, why they're being introduced in various regions, and how their presence impacts dental hygienists and the broader dental team. Key topics discussed include: Understanding OPAs and their intended role within dental practices The surprising truth about the hygienist perspective on change and professional identity The real impact OPAs may have on workflow, patient care, and team dynamics Practical ways hygienists can work with OPAs in everyday clinical settings How to respond constructively when advocacy efforts don't achieve the desired outcome Rather than framing OPAs as a threat, this episode challenges listeners to consider how collaboration, leadership, and proactive engagement can strengthen the profession. Joffree offers thoughtful insight into how hygienists can continue advocating for themselves while also building effective working relationships with Oral Preventive Assistants. This episode is a must-listen for hygienists navigating legislative changes and seeking productive ways to move forward—together. Call to Action Empower yourself as a dental hygienist. Advocate for your profession, stay informed about legislative developments, and focus on collaboration. Learn how to work alongside Oral Preventive Assistants in ways that support patient care, professional growth, and team success. Resources: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joffreebunleang/ "What if OPAs became the strength we didn't see coming?" https://www.rdhmag.com/career-profession/article/55344645/what-if-opas-became-the-strength-we-didnt-see-coming

Legislation impacts your daily practice more than most clinicians realize. In this episode, we sit down with Derik J. Sven to break down what truly drives change in dental hygiene policy — and what doesn't. Derik shares insight into the realities behind dental care standards, the ongoing fight for hygienist autonomy, and the complex supervision structures that shape scope of practice across the country. He also explains why legal expertise often carries significant influence in regulatory conversations and how business, public health, and law intersect in advancing the profession. In This Episode We Cover: The political and structural forces behind dental care standards The ongoing battle for dental hygienist autonomy Supervision requirements and why they matter Why attorneys often influence dental policy decisions Lesser-known factors that can directly affect your career About the Guest Derik J. Sven began his career as a certified dental technician before transitioning into clinical dental hygiene. He earned degrees in Dental Hygiene and Health Care Administration, followed by a Master of Public Health and a Master of Business Administration. He is currently pursuing doctoral research at George Washington University, focusing on dental therapy advancement and hygienist autonomy, while also completing a Master's in Health Care Law. Derik is actively involved in the American Dental Hygienists' Association, where he was inducted into the inaugural class of ADHA Fellows in 2023 and serves as President-Elect of Virginia's Dental Hygienists' Association. This episode offers a practical foundation for understanding how legislation truly moves — and what it means for the future of dental hygiene. Resources: [email protected] https://www.linkedin.com/in/derikjsven/

Tooth sensitivity can make everyday things—like drinking cold water or even getting a routine cleaning—uncomfortable for patients. In this TIPisode, Dr. Marc Geissberger shares his experience beta testing ReminGel, a professional-strength remineralizing gel from PerioProtect designed to reduce sensitivity and support enamel health. Marc Geissberger DDS, MA shares how patients in his practice used the gel with PerioProtect trays for just 15 minutes a day, with many reporting dramatic reductions in sensitivity after only one week. If you treat patients who struggle with sensitivity, this TIPisode highlights a promising option that may improve comfort, hygiene visits, and overall patient care. This TIPisode is sponsored by PerioProtect. Learn more at PerioProtect.com

Advocacy can feel exhausting — especially in a profession that already demands so much emotionally and physically. In this powerful episode, we sit down with Bethany Montoya, MBA, BAS, RDH to talk about how to stand up for yourself, your patients, and your profession without sacrificing your well-being. Bethany shares her personal journey through challenge, change, and growth — and how embracing the storm can actually make you stronger. From navigating the pressures of clinical life to stepping into new leadership roles, she reminds us that authenticity and community are essential tools in sustainable advocacy. This conversation is honest, energizing, and filled with practical encouragement for hygienists who want to make a difference without burning out. Connect with Bethany: 🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethanymontoya/ 🔗 Resources & Projects: https://linktr.ee/humanrdh [email protected]

In this episode, we sit down with Danyelle Evans to explore her path from an invested clinician to becoming a state and national advocate for oral health and access to prevention. Danyelle shares the moment that shifted her perspective from frustration to action: caring for a patient who could no longer continue treatment in a traditional brick-and-mortar dental office. Watching him lose access to care sparked her desire to create opportunities to continue caring for patients in more accessible, patient-centered ways. From that experience, Danyelle's advocacy journey grew. She reflects on how professional association membership became a critical foundation—providing education, leadership development, and a voice in policy conversations that directly impact patient care. We also discuss how networking, mentorship, and showing up consistently opened doors to opportunities she never could have planned for, but was prepared to step into. Resources: [email protected] linkedin.com/in/danyelleevans @mobile_dentalhygiene facebook.com/MobileDentalHygieneofSt.George

Dr. Johnson returns to the podcast to share a powerful and often-overlooked perspective on tribal dentistry, career fulfillment, and why passion truly matters in dentistry. This conversation goes beyond clinical techniques and dives into purpose, opportunity, and loving the work you do. 🦷 What You'll Learn in This Episode Understanding Tribal Dentistry: A Unique Perspective Dr. Johnson offers an inside look at tribal dentistry—how it operates, who it serves, and why it plays a vital role in improving access to care in underserved communities. Navigating Job Opportunities in Tribal Dentistry Thinking outside the traditional private practice model? Dr. Johnson breaks down career paths, benefits, and professional growth opportunities available in tribal dentistry. The Impact of Passion in Dentistry Revealed Passion isn't optional—it's essential. Dr. Johnson explains how loving what you do directly affects patient care, team culture, and long-term career satisfaction. Why Loving Your Job Makes a Difference From daily mindset to burnout prevention, Dr. Johnson shares how fulfillment in dentistry leads to better outcomes for both patients and providers. Discover the Tooth Fairy's Secret Money Source A fun and lighthearted moment in the episode, Dr. Johnson reveals a playful take on the legendary tooth fairy—and the Children's book that he wrote about it! Resources: Where Does the Tooth Fairy Get All That Money? https://a.co/d/7YpQVgC The Sacred Chalice https://a.co/d/0XfYf5Y

In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, hosts Jessica Atkinson and David Torres sit down with Brittnee Thibault and Lindsay Richmond—two hygienists who graduated with no pediatric local anesthetic practice in school and went on to become confident clinicians providing local anesthesia for children. Brittnee and Lindsay share how they developed pediatric anesthesia skills after graduation, building confidence through preparation, mentorship, and real-world experience. They discuss behavior management, anesthesia techniques, and parent-provider communication—highlighting how being prepared allows clinicians to stay calm rather than panicked when treating pediatric patients. What We Cover Transitioning from no pediatric local anesthetic practice in school to confidently anesthetizing children Pediatric behavior management strategies that support successful anesthesia Practical anesthesia techniques and considerations for pediatric patients Managing children and their parents during appointments Parent-provider communication that builds trust and reduces anxiety Resources: Social Media Handles: @Lindsay.richmond16 [email protected] @brittnee.thibault [email protected]

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Johnson, a dedicated pediatric dentist (pedodontist), to explore what makes pediatric dentistry truly unique—and why it's about so much more than just teeth. From mastering parent communication to handling unexpected holiday emergencies, Dr. Johnson shares real-world insights from the front lines of pediatric care. 🦷 What You'll Learn in This Episode Why Dr. Johnson Became a Pedodontist Dr. Johnson shares the personal and professional journey that led him to specialize in pediatric dentistry, and what continues to inspire his passion for treating children. The Journey to Becoming a Pediatric Dentist An inside look at the training, mindset, and commitment required to pursue pediatric dentistry—and how it differs from general practice. Why Pediatric Dentistry Requires a Unique Approach Children aren't just small adults. Dr. Johnson explains how behavior, development, fear, and trust shape every clinical decision in pediatric care. Mastering Parent Communication in Dentistry Effective pediatric dentistry depends on strong relationships with parents. Dr. Johnson breaks down how to educate, reassure, and partner with families for better outcomes. The Power of Prevention in Pediatric Dentistry From early habits to long-term oral health, prevention is the cornerstone of pediatric dentistry. Learn how early intervention can set kids up for a lifetime of healthy smiles. When to Consider Sedation for Pediatric Patients A thoughtful discussion on sedation—when it's appropriate, how decisions are made, and how safety and comfort are prioritized for young patients. The Unexpected Tooth Emergency on Christmas Eve Dr. Johnson shares a memorable real-life story that highlights the unpredictable nature of pediatric dentistry—and the dedication it takes to care for patients when it matters most. Resources: Dr. Johnson's book Link: https://a.co/d/7YpQVgC [email protected]

In this episode, we sit down with Christine Jeffs, co-founder of Acuti Sharpening, to talk about why sharpening isn't optional—it's essential. Christine shares how she got started in the sharpening business and how Acuti Sharpening came to life alongside co-founder Melia Lewis, RDH. We unpack the often-overlooked role instrument sharpness plays in ergonomics, efficiency, patient comfort, and long-term career longevity. This conversation goes beyond the what and into the why. Christine explains how sharpening directly impacts clinical outcomes and why making it a consistent habit—not an afterthought—can change the way hygienists practice. Whether you're new to sharpening or know you should be doing it more regularly, this episode offers clarity, motivation, and practical insight. What You'll Hear in This Episode How Christine got into the sharpening space The origin of Acuti Sharpening Why sharp instruments matter for clinicians, patients, and careers How to build sharpening into a regular clinical routine Resources: [email protected]

In this episode, we introduce The Pros at Glam Studio and the passion behind their work. As licensed dental hygienists with decades of experience, they share how they combine dental hygiene and aesthetics to help clients achieve healthy, beautiful smiles. We talk about their approach to safe, personalized care, their expansion into hygienic piercing services, and why client comfort, education, and confidence are at the heart of everything they do. What You'll Hear in This Episode How Glam Studio blends dental hygiene and aesthetics The importance of safety, certification, and client care Why confidence and feeling your best matter Resources: [email protected] https://voyageutah.com/interview/inspiring-conversations-with-laraine-hartle-and-lindsey-jepperson-of-glam-studio-pros Website: https://glamstudiopros.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glamstudiopros?igsh=MXF2eXg4ZWM2aHZjYw%3D%3D&utm_source=qr Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/19zdy8KL95/?mibextid=wwXIfr Youtube: https://youtube.com/@glamstudiopros?si=lRvW9_fyFoKTZh3j#

In this episode, we welcome our new co-host, Jessica and David with a fun, question-based game to get to know each other on (and off) the mic. Instead of a formal intro, we dive into stories, laughs, and a few unexpected answers. We talk about how this co-hosting partnership came together, what excites us about this new chapter, and why having fun is at the heart of great conversations. What You'll Hear in This Episode How Jessica & David joined the podcast A get-to-know-you game with surprising moments What's ahead for the podcast? Resources: Jessica's Email - [email protected], David's Email - [email protected]

In this episode, we chat with Ashley Kear about starting her Etsy shop and what happens when you stop trying to niche yourself into a box—and instead combine everything you love. Ashley shares how her journey began not just with creativity and curiosity, but with encouragement from friends who saw her talent and pushed her to go for it. We explore letting ideas evolve, trusting your instincts, and allowing fun to be part of the process. Sometimes the magic comes from experimenting, playing, and building something that feels like you. What You'll Hear in This Episode How Ashley got started on Etsy—with a nudge from a colleague Blending multiple passions into one creative outlet The role of community and encouragement in taking creative risks Letting fun guide the creative and business process Resources: [email protected] https://linktr.ee/ashleykearart?utm_source=linktree_profile_share

In this episode, we sit down with Shelley Brown to talk about what happens when creativity, clinical care, and advocacy collide. Shelley shares the story behind her "side gig," Homebound Smiles, and how a simple idea grew into meaningful work serving patients who often fall through the cracks of traditional care models. We explore what it really takes to build a full professional life—without burning out or losing your spark. This conversation goes beyond business. Shelley opens up about advocacy in dental hygiene, recognizing unmet needs, and staying creatively energized. Whether you're dreaming about a side project, craving more purpose, or simply trying to keep your creativity flowing, this episode will leave you inspired and grounded. What You'll Hear in This Episode How Homebound Smiles came to life—and why it matters Navigating side gigs while maintaining balance and boundaries Advocacy as both action and mindset in dental hygiene Giving yourself permission to evolve professionally Resources: [email protected] @Shelley_The_Hygienist https://youtu.be/g03aZFjmKz8 https://www.shelley.dental/product-page/public-health-hygienist-in-utah-resource-guide HygieneEdgeucators.com https://www.shelley.dental/

The end of an era as Andrew hangs up the mic as host of A Tale of Two Hygienists after more than 10 years. But this isn't a sad day, it's a day to celebrate as we welcome in the two new co-hosts for 2026.. but you have to listen to find out who it is!

Spice/K2 is incredibly problematic. Not only is it unhealthy, it's also inconsistent and regularly laced with unknown additives and other drugs. Listen to Tom Viola as he explains the main concerns with this recreational drug! Resources: Be sure to reach out to him if you have any questions by emailing [email protected], visit his website TomViola.com or check out his social media - @pharmacologydeclassified

We go through different phases of our life and sometimes we are very healthy and sometimes we aren't. Unfortunately, we humans judge books by covers - we think thin is health and heavy is not. In this episode with Machell Hoover she reminds us of what health really looks like, what her journey has been, and how to partner with the right providers to get exactly what your body needs to be healthy. Resources: [email protected]

What to see an alarming stat? 77% of OBGYNs report that their pregnant patients are declined routine dental care. There is plenty of stigma and misunderstanding swirling about in the dental community regarding pregnant patients, so give this episode with Katrina Sanders as she shares 8 important tips for treating pregnant patients! Resources: More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/

Have you ever been in that weird in-between spot where you are in holiday mode but still have work but want the year to be over for a reset but still need to process the happenings of the previous 12 months? Of course you have, and many of us have been in that exact spot! In this episode we take a proactive approach to making 2026 just that much better with 5 steps you can start today! Resources: https://psychcentral.com/blog/how-to-stop-ruminating-on-the-past#rumination-vs-obsession

In this episode, we dive into the concept of burnout. Burnout has turned into a massive industry buzzword and quite frankly, its mostly misused. Additionally, the solutions that have been given to beat burnout are often addressing something that isn't getting to the root of the problem. Give this episode a listen to see where you stand on the topic! Resources https://news.mit.edu/2024/most-work-is-new-work-us-census-data-shows-0401 https://mhanational.org/resources/burnout-signs-causes-recover/ Screening For Depression vs Burnout with Mental Health America

Listen in to this week's episode with Katrina Sanders as she explains when a patient TRULY needs scaling and root planing! Resources: More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/

Episode Overview In this thought-provoking episode, Tim Ives joins the show for an in-depth conversation on the evolving role of dental hygienists, the ongoing challenges in oral health, and the importance of behavior change and communication in achieving better patient outcomes. The discussion delves into dental education, interprofessional collaboration, measuring success in hygiene, and innovative ideas for the profession's future, such as independent hygiene practices and high street outreach. Key Topics Defining the Role of the Dental Hygienist: Tim Ives challenges listeners to rethink the traditional image of the hygienist and advocates for a broader understanding among patients, dentists, and hygienists themselves. Barriers to Change in Dental Health: Discussion on why oral diseases like dental caries and periodontal disease remain prevalent and the systemic issues preventing progress. Measuring Success in Hygiene: How hygienists can (and should) measure patient health outcomes, and why communication and behavior change skills should be prioritized. Business vs. Healthcare: The difficulties in balancing profitability and genuine health care—especially in corporate/group practice settings. Ideas for the Future: Envisioning hygienists as independent professionals on the high street, specialists in behavioral change, and as accessible advisors to the public. Education Pathways and Research: Insight into the innovative programs at O'Hehir University, including international bachelor's and master's degrees for dental hygienists, and the recently launched journal publishing condensed (400-word) research papers. Behavioral Change & Stress in Oral Health: Exploring newer research that ties socioeconomic status, stress, and cortisol to dental caries risk, and the need to address systemic social issues to truly improve health. Professionalism & Interprofessional Education: The impact of UK programs where hygienists and dentists are trained side by side, and how this fosters professionalism and teamwork. Direct Access & Practice Ownership: How changes in UK policy now allow hygienists to own practices, employ dentists, and offer direct patient access. Personal Reflections: Tim Ives shares his candid views on career development and success, plus a fun closing discussion on football and Wrexham's promotion odds. O'Hehir University Programs 6-month Bachelor's program — open globally to licensed dental hygienists 18-month Master's program — focused on oral health promotion, leadership, and research New journal featuring concise, practice-relevant research summaries Learn more and contact Tim Ives: Email: [email protected] O'Hehir University Website: https://ohehiruniversity.org/ Connect For more information about O'Hehir University or to reach Tim Ives Email: [email protected] Shout-Out Huge thanks to Tim Ives for his insights and dedication to the profession, and to all listeners for supporting these important conversations that help shape the future of dental hygiene. Stay Connected Subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists on your favorite podcast platform Follow on social media Sign up for the newsletter Thanks for tuning in!

Episode Overview This episode is a recording of a CE-Caliber presentation led by Tanya Dunlap, Vice President of Clinical and Business Development, and research liaison for Perio Protect. Key Topics Covered Chronic Oral Infections & Systemic Health: Tanya Dunlap explains why chronic oral infections are not just a local problem, but can affect overall health—especially for patients with conditions like type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and more. Prescription Tray Therapy Explained: Learn the science behind Perio Protect's periodontal medicament carrier trays—how they deliver low-concentration hydrogen peroxide deep into periodontal pockets to fight infection and improve gum health. Case Studies & Clinical Outcomes: See real-world examples of patients who used Perio Protect, including those with crowns, implants, advanced periodontal disease, and systemic health concerns. Hear about measurable reductions in bleeding, improved gum scores, and even systemic improvements in markers like hemoglobin A1c. Impact on Restorations & Implants: Tanya Dunlap discusses how Perio Protect can help maintain the longevity of crowns and implants, prevent peri-implant mucositis, and support healthy tissue around restorations. Patient Communication & Compliance: Tips for presenting the treatment in a way patients can understand, including how to use the "gum score" as an objective health metric. Strategies for boosting patient commitment and overcoming common objections. Safety, Usage, and Cost: Answers to audience questions on sensitivity, safety of low-concentration peroxide, compatibility with other dental products, recommended usage duration, and the typical costs for trays and gel. Insurance & Coding: Insights into dental insurance coverage for Perio Protect, recommended CDT codes, and how to handle FSA/HSA payments for patients. Featured Speakers Tanya Dunlap Resources & Links For more information, visit Perio Protect's website or check out their research at periprotect.com/research. You can also find additional patient-facing materials and educational brochures mentioned in the episode. Takeaways Whether you're a dental professional looking to improve patient outcomes, or just curious about the link between oral and systemic health, this episode is packed with actionable insights and practical tips. Hear audience questions answered live, learn how Perio Protect fits into comprehensive care plans, and see how this adjunctive therapy can elevate your clinical results. Connect Don't miss out on future updates—follow A Tale of Two Hygienists, subscribe, and sign up for the newsletter! If you have further questions or want access to slides or studies mentioned, be sure to contact Tanya Dunlap directly via the contact information provided in the episode. Thank you for listening!