A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Michelle and Andrew! Your hosts are talking about comments made by Lobbyist Dave Marsh for the Illinois State Dental Society. The comment that got Michelle, Andrew and should get you fired up: "I just don't feel anybody with a two-year associate degree is medically qualified to correct your health, they're trained to clean teeth. They take a sharp little instrument and scrape your teeth. That's what they do. That's all they do." - Dave Marsh lobbyist for the Illinois dental society If you have feelings about this statement made by Mr. Marsh and you would like to email him, his email is: [email protected] Episode Highlights The Comment The Inaccuracy Be a Smart Dentist Privilege of Not Being Involved in Politics Call your Senator and State Legislators Quotes "We are not trying to be dentists, we are trying to be preventive care specialists." "What a slap in the face to your constituents!" "It was abhorrent and wrong, factually wrong." "Remind me, are some associate degrees nursing degrees?" "If you are a smart dentist you will create as many feeder outlets into your practice as you can." "They are missing the role of what we do." "By not being involved in politics it is our community and profession that is going to take the hit." Links Article: In a battle reflecting turf wars around the country, Illinois dentists helped defeat bills that would have allowed hygienists to practice in nursing homes and prisons AToTH Episodes For FREE CE AToTH Instagram AToTH Facebook AToTH Website

Please Leave a Review! On this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists we have a Hygiene Edge takeover! Join Jessica, Melia and Shelley and the mighty M's: Mandy Gibbs, Melissa Calhoun and Megen Elliott to talk about becoming an educator! Special thank you to Paradise Dental Technologies for sponsoring the CE portion of this podcast so that we can provide you with FREE CE! Take the CE quiz for this episode here. Be sure to view your state guidelines to ensure this CE is applicable in your State. You can view all episodes with Free CE here. Interview Starts: 02:42.575 Episode Highlights Our guests backgrounds as educators Is going back to school right for you? Different educator experiences Different educator programs ADHA Components Education is not a break from clinical practice Quotes "I stuck around and I asked a lot, letting them know I was interested in dental hygiene education." "I feel like getting my Masters was easier than getting my hygiene degree." "There is only one thing harder than being a dental hygiene student, and that is being a dental hygiene educator." "I think it is important to evaluate what you are interested in, and what you want to be learning about." "We are in need of dental hygiene educators." "Squeaky wheel gets the grease." "It's not what you know, it is who you know." "Share your ambitions with others." "Once you catch that vision it is hard to shake." "Even if education is not where you want to go, continue your education." Links Hygiene Edge: https://www.hygieneedge.com/ A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition, Katrina Sanders, RDH discusses the AAP grades of periodontitis. Quotes: " Grading allows us the opportunity to take a look at what we understand with regards to various types of recognized risk factors and how those risk factors play a role in the complexity of this disease process. "We can also predictably measure a response to standard therapy, and if a patient is considered an advanced grade of the disease process, we may predict that these patients that are in advanced grade may not respond as favorably to the disease treatment." Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Papapanou, P. N., Sanz, M., Buduneli, N., Dietrich, T., Feres, M., Fine, D. H., ... & Tonetti, M. S. (2018). Periodontitis: Consensus report of workgroup 2 of the 2017 World Workshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri‐Implant Diseases and Conditions. Journal of periodontology, 89, S173-S182.

This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Steve Pardue from Elevate Oral Care to talk about antiseptic and antimicrobial agents in dentistry highlighting Povidone-iodine and its properties that fight decay. Episode Highlights Antiseptic Agents Povidone-iodine Povi•OneTM Quotes "Hygienists are in the unique position to prevent decay rather than repair it after the damage is already done." "Hygienists spend the most time with patients in the dental office, this is valuable time where you can offer guidance for patients to manage their own oral care." "These agents are broad spectrum and also kill the good bacteria." "Povidone-iodine reduces glucan production significantly which in turn reduces the ability to create polysaccharides and therefore makes plaque less sticky." Links www.elevateoralcare.com/elevatingcare Schedule AGD CE Accredited Staff Meeting 877-866-9113 or email [email protected] Patient Centered Communication Video Series: http://www.elevateoralcare.com/elevatingcare Elevate Oral Care Website: http://www.elevateoralcare.com Elevate Oral Care Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elevateoralcare Elevate Oral Care Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elevate_oral_care/ More TIPisodes: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/tipisodes/ AToTH Website: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com

Please Leave a Review! On this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists your hosts, Michelle Strange and Andrew Johnston are joined by Jasmin Haley, RDH, MSDH, CDA, Eden Ivie, BSDH, RDH, PHDHP, Dr. Joy Void-Holmes, RDH, BSDH, MHSc, AADH and India Chance, BSDH, RDH to continue the conversation around the TRUTH of what it is like to be a KOL. Special thank you to Paradise Dental Technologies for sponsoring the CE portion of this podcast so that we can provide you with FREE CE! This particular episode does not qualify for CE however you can view episodes that do here. Interview Starts: 02:42.200 Episode Highlights How our guests started their speaking careers Mentorship Mean Girl Mentality Scarcity Mindset Intellectual Property Quotes "She said don't quit your day job, and mind you that was true… but did I need to hear that?" "There is enough to go around, there really is." "We are stepping in the right direction and we are here to make the change." "I choose to surround myself with those with an abundance mindset." "Your Intellectual property, your beautiful brain is worth way more than you can realize." "You need to know how to leverage relationships so that it benefits you." "I didn't have a starting point when I first started, and that was so frustrating." "It isn't just the time while you are on the stage, it is your preparation time, your travel time, all the time spent at the event." "If people give pushback, please know there will be other opportunities." Links www.jasminhaley.com www.learn2prevent.com [email protected] www.drjoyrdh.com/ A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn

Please Leave a Review! On this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists your hosts, Michelle Strange and Andrew Johnston are joined by Jasmin Haley, RDH, MSDH, CDA and Eden Ivie, BSDH, RDH, PHDHP to talk about the TRUTH of what it is like to be a KOL, the good, the not so good, and the areas of the industry that straight up need to change. Special thank you to Paradise Dental Technologies for sponsoring the CE portion of this podcast so that we can provide you with FREE CE! This particular episode does not qualify for CE however you can view episodes that do here. Interview Starts: 10:41.253 Episode Highlights Why our guests became speakers Diversity of thought Inclusion Compensation Value Company models to emulate Mentorship vs. Coaching Quotes "This conversation is going to hold peoples feet to the fire and make them see that we can do better." "It was worth getting over my stage fright to teach people how to use this technology and understand it." "It was a big red flag for me that there was no diversity of thought." "It doesn't matter what industry you are in, all of us women deal with the same ways of thinking." "We need to take a stand collectively." "We are all suffering in silence." "If you give them too much change you are chastised." "Ask for that value, and add tax." "RDH's are not seen as having the buying power or intellectual abilities to be able to share from the stage and therefore our compensation is peanuts." "She left RDH off of her name because she needed people to listen to her, and that RDH is a permission to dismiss." "If we are not valued as a whole, how are we going to see any change." "Noone that is successful in this industry has done it without a coach." "Don't expect that knowledge for free, it doesn't come from a mentor, it comes from a coach." "I want to see you rise, but not with my content, that is intellectual property." Links http://www.jasminhaley.com/ A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition, Katrina Sanders, RDH wrap up the breakdown of the AAP 2017 Classification System highlighting state 4. Quotes: "These are patients in which there is complex management required in order to stabilize the patient's existence of this disease." "It is imperative to understand that this adequate rehabilitation is being done in order to preserve the remaining dentition." Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Papapanou, P. N., Sanz, M., Buduneli, N., Dietrich, T., Feres, M., Fine, D. H., ... & Tonetti, M. S. (2018). Periodontitis: Consensus report of workgroup 2 of the 2017 World Workshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri‐Implant Diseases and Conditions. Journal of periodontology, 89, S173-S182.

Please Leave a Review! This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by return guest, Dr. Brian Novy. Dr. Novy is the Chief Dental Officer at the Alliance Dental Center. In this TIPisode Dr. Novy talks to us about sealants, and what the evidence tells us about them! Episode Highlights Dr. Novy's Background Glass Ionomer Sealants Quotes "When I am not practicing dentistry, I am talking about dentistry, specifically how to manage dental decay." "When it comes to anything we do in dentistry there is nothing more evidence based than sealants." "When you see a Glass Ionomer Sealant that is not in the tooth, that is actually a good thing, it means it did exactly what it was supposed to do." "If that child is not developing any kind of calculus they need sealants, it means their mouth is so acidic that calculus isn't forming." Links http://www.gcamerica.com https://www.gcamerica.com/products/operatory/GIRestoratives.php http://www.whollymolar.net/

Please Leave a Review! On this Student Focused Roundtable Michelle is joined by Crystal Spring, RDH and Janet Crosswhite, RDH to talk about public health vs. private practice. Both Janet and Crystal work in the public health realm and share their experiences from working in public health and private practice over their careers. Interview Starts: 10:25 Episode Highlights Crystal's Background Janet's Background Private Practice vs. Public Health Standard of Care Ideal Public Health Hygienist Patient Complications in Public Health Highs and Lows Quotes "I have huge issues with people thinking public health is sub standard care." "Even in private practice, you choose how you provide care for your patients." "We do not provide sub standard care, we go above and beyond." "You can create the job you want whether it is in private practice or public health." "Once you are in public health I dare you to go back, it becomes where your heart is, you become really passionate about public health." "You have to have thick skin and be committed to bringing the best care to your patients." "You want to take care of your patients with better care than you would treat your family." "No-one on the team can be lazy in public health." "I leave stain and I leave calculous, I'm going to put my focus on biofilm management and homecare." Links www.heavenlysmilesmobiledental.com [email protected] Smilesacrossmontana.com [email protected] A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition, Katrina Sanders, RDH continues the breakdown of the AAP 2017 Classification System Stage three. Quotes: "Now, for dental hygienists that are typically working blindly and by blindly I mean, we're using feel more than we are our own eyeballs." "Meaning in most scenarios, the only time that we can see radiologic bone loss on a patient is once they have moved into stage three periodontitis." Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Papapanou, P. N., Sanz, M., Buduneli, N., Dietrich, T., Feres, M., Fine, D. H., ... & Tonetti, M. S. (2018). Periodontitis: Consensus report of workgroup 2 of the 2017 World Workshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri‐Implant Diseases and Conditions. Journal of periodontology, 89, S173-S182.

This TIPisode is brought to you by CariFree. We are joined by our very own Michelle Strange to talk to you about pH regulation for your patients. Episode Highlights: pH Saliva pH neutralizing products Quotes: "We all know the value of good healthy saliva." "When we eat, the pH can drop rapidly." "Targeted pH neutralizing dental products used daily can greatly support a bacterial shift in their biofilm." "Prevent the negative shift." "You can get a free copy of "why me" by visiting the link below." Links: Free Book for Listeners: https://carifree.com/tipisode/ CariFree: https://carifree.com/

Please Leave a Review! On this milestone episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists your hosts, Michelle Strange and Andrew Johnston are joined by several of their fellow RCC Influencers to talk about everything from mentorship, and what they believe made them successful, to how prepared they are financially for retirement! You will recognize many of the names of the guests included on this episode, be sure to tune in through the end to soak up the abundance of knowledge shared with us by Martelle Coke, Britt Glauz, Rafael Rondon, Carrie Ibbetson, Claire Jeong, Angie Stone, Sonya Dunbar and Tameka Lee. Special thank you to Paradise Dental Technologies for sponsoring the CE portion of this podcast so that we can provide you with FREE CE! Read the disclaimers as it might not count for your state. Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit! Interview Starts: 15:15.624 Links A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition, Katrina Sanders, RDH continues the breakdown of the AAP 2017 Classification System Stage two. Quotes: "Maximum probing depth anywhere in the mouth will be 5 mm." "The idea being that if this is a 5mm pocket not due to hyperplasia, tissue overgrowth or fibrosis, but actually due to apical migration of the junctional epithelium, the clinician will observe anywhere between 3mm to 4mm of interdental clinical attachment loss." Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Papapanou, P. N., Sanz, M., Buduneli, N., Dietrich, T., Feres, M., Fine, D. H., ... & Tonetti, M. S. (2018). Periodontitis: Consensus report of workgroup 2 of the 2017 World Workshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri‐Implant Diseases and Conditions. Journal of periodontology, 89, S173-S182.

This TIPisode is brought to you by Zirc Dental. We are joined by Tina Punton, who talks to us about the cost of disorganization and what it means for your office. Zirc has solutions for your practice that will decrease your disorganization, stress and that are beautiful for your patients to look at! Tina attended Minnesota State University-Mankato to receive her degree in Dental Hygiene. Prior to joining the Zirc team, she spent 23 years practicing dental hygiene in various sectors of dentistry. She specializes in working with special market accounts and helping group practices implement scalable systems to help teams get organized and make each day moving forward a happier one! Quotes: "Let's face it, dental offices can be hectic and stressful." "We've all had the days where the stress of the daily tasks adds up." "Color method is the process of managing dental instruments and materials by assigning procedures with a color." "We've got 16 different colors to choose from." "Think of the sterilization room as the hub of your practice." "Patients are more aware of their surroundings now and they will appreciate the look of a color coded office." "There is no guessing or wasting money." Links: Learn more about Zirc Dental Products: Zirc Dental Products | Innovative Color Coding and Efficiency Products to Save You Time www.zirc.com/zobe Email Tina: [email protected] or call her at 763-251-3039 Follow Zirc on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zircdentalproducts/

Please Leave a Review! THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state. Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit! Joining Michelle today on the show is Dr. John Molinari to discuss the importance of vaccinations and immunizations. Dr. Molinari is a microbiologist who was awarded Professor Emeritus at the University of Detroit Mercy, where he served for 32 years as Professor and Chairman of the Department of Biomedical Sciences and Director of Infection Control. He was later Infection Control Director for THE DENTAL ADVISOR in Ann Arbor, Michigan from 2009-2018, has published over 500 scientific articles, text chapters, and abstracts in the areas of microbiology and immunology, and lectures nationally and internationally on topics dealing with infectious diseases and infection control. Dr. Molinari is also a founder and Past-President of OSAP, and co-author of the text Cottone's Practical Infection Control in Dentistry. This week's episode explores the impacts of vaccines as a topic under infection control, with Dr. Molinari delving into the history of vaccines for diseases such as polio, smallpox, and many others. He goes on to talk about the ideal properties of vaccines and the need for them to be safe, and herd immunity including the risks associated with it and how it is achieved by infection and vaccination. The episode rounds off with Dr. Molinari reviewing the need for boosters, the typical side effects of vaccines, and why vaccine hesitancy exists. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: Interview starts: 9:28 - Dr. Molinari's journey in infection control in the dental industry - The successful impacts of vaccines- a brief history - What are the ideal vaccine properties? - The six phases of vaccine development - Why a vaccine is not 100% - Herd immunity: What is it? - How does herd immunity work? - 2 ways to accomplish herd immunity - The problems with herd immunity - The effects of new variants on the success of the vaccines - Is there a need for boosters? - Vaccine hesitancy and refusal- is it new? - Typical vaccine side effects - Why dental care providers should have immunizations QUOTES: "Vaccines were one of the greatest public health achievements of the 21st century" "Back in my day, when these vaccines came out, like the polio vaccine, it was a personal family responsibility, but also people looked at it as a public health responsibility to get vaccinated." "You protect yourself, your family, but also others that you've come in contact with." "First and foremost, vaccines have to be safe. A vaccine has to be safe." "The benefits have to far outweigh the potential risks." "No vaccine is 100% foolproof." "Not everybody responds to vaccines...your immune response is different from mine." "Herd immunity basically says that the larger the percentage of the population that is immune against the disease, the greater the protection because you have less susceptible hosts for that virus or bacteria to spread in the population." "The more you allow the virus to spread between individuals, the better the chance it has to mutate to other variants which may retard the effectiveness of the vaccine." "I'm really okay not having any diseases, please and thank you." "The more the viruses replicate, the more they're able to spread, the better the chance for natural mutations." "It always comes down to the same thing - get vaccinated, give yourself the best level of protection that you possibly can." LINKS: A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn Dr. Molinari's Gmail

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition Katrina Sanders, RDH dives into AAP staging and grading, opening the conversation by covering stage one periodontitis and how we classify patients that are standing on that border land between gingivitis and periodontitis. Quotes: "So typically, when these patients present with clinical attachment loss, I want to be very clear, the AAP in their framework indicates a patient with stage one periodontitis as a patient who has a pocket depth maximum anywhere in the mouth of 4mm." "I want to conclude by sharing that this patient has not lost any teeth due to the periodontal disease process and our Academy indicates that stage one periodontally diseased patients have an opportunity for early intervention and monitoring" Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Papapanou, P. N., Sanz, M., Buduneli, N., Dietrich, T., Feres, M., Fine, D. H., ... & Tonetti, M. S. (2018). Periodontitis: Consensus report of workgroup 2 of the 2017 World Workshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri‐Implant Diseases and Conditions. Journal of periodontology, 89, S173-S182.

This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Brooke Crouch, RDH from Elevate Oral Care to talk to us about dry mouth and using Allday Dry Mouth Spray to treat your patients. Episode Highlights Causes of Dry Mouth Allday Dry Mouth Spray Xylitol Quotes "Dry mouth is a subject I have become all too familiar with." "It isn't just our elderly patients that suffer from dry mouth." "That article said about 27% of people are suffering from dry mouth." "Recommending the right dry mouth product can not only alleviate their pain and discomfort but can also benefit their oral health." "Not all dry mouth sufferers are the same." Links Allday Dry Mouth Spray Schedule AGD CE Accredited Staff Meeting 877-866-9113 or email [email protected] Patient Centered Communication Video Series: http://www.elevateoralcare.com/elevatingcare Elevate Oral Care Website: http://www.elevateoralcare.com Elevate Oral Care Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elevateoralcare Elevate Oral Care Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elevate_oral_care/ More TIPisodes: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/tipisodes/ AToTH Website: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com

Please Leave a Review! THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state. Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit! Michelle and Andrew have invited Kimberly Grensavitch, MJ, BA, RDH, to the show today to discuss Instructions for Use (IFU) in the dental field. Kimberly is a skilled quality professional dedicated to Regulatory Compliance and Risk Management in the HealthCare industry with over 20 years clinical experience. She has a Bachelor's degree focused in Health/Health Care Administration/Management from Ottawa University-Wisconsin, and a Master's degree in Jurisprudence focused in Health Care Law from Loyola University School of Law. Kimberly brings her expertise to the podcast today, delving into IFU and its importance in the dental industry. Today's episode explores the disparities that occur in various IFU for equipment and how this can be confusing for dental experts. Kimberly and our hosts discuss ways to audit your setup and how purchase from the same manufacturer can assist with IFU consistency. At various times in the episode, they discuss instances of IFU inconsistency and ways to keep up with the changes in IFU, and conclude with a call to action to improve standardization by enumerating steps that can be followed. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: Interview starts: 12:17 - Kimberly's journey in the dental field - How Instructions for Use (IFU)can be confusing for an end-user - What are voluntary consensus standards? - Auditing your setup for IFU - Is it important to order setups from the same manufacturer for IFU consistency? - How to keep up with changes in IFU - Reprocessing your instruments - A call to improve standardization QUOTES: "You have to follow the manufacturer's instructions. We have to have them readily available, so if we choose to bypass those and do our own thing, we assume the same liability that the manufacturer would." "If you're in a practice where you've got more than one brand, how do you keep that straight? How long would it take you to do new team member orientation?" "You really do have to know every single piece of equipment so that you can be a team member and cross-trained properly." "You can't have 18 different instruments that are in one setup that then require five different ways of processing them. That is never going to work for a small practice." "We definitely want to do what's safe and make sure that our instruments are clean and disinfected and sterilized. So it becomes difficult if you don't have consistent manufacturer's instructions to be able to do that." LINKS: A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn Kimberly's Thesis Kimberly's Email

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition Katrina Sanders, RDH gives us an overview of the AAP staging guidelines that we will give into over the next several weeks! Quotes: "Periodontitis is characterized by microbially associated host mediated inflammation that results in loss of periodontal attachment. This is detected as clinical attachment loss by circumferential assessment of the erupted dentition with a standardized periodontal probe with reference to the cemento enamel junction." "These we all of course understand are going to be single definitions in helping to identify if the patient is truly considered an active perio case." Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Papapanou, P. N., Sanz, M., Buduneli, N., Dietrich, T., Feres, M., Fine, D. H., ... & Tonetti, M. S. (2018). Periodontitis: Consensus report of workgroup 2 of the 2017 World Workshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri‐Implant Diseases and Conditions. Journal of periodontology, 89, S173-S182.

This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode our very own Andrew Johnston, RDH talks to us about lunch and learns, and provides tips to get the most out of yours! Episode Highlights Proper execution Block your schedule Distraction free Sample questions for your rep Post meeting action items Quotes " They do the job because they love helping people be healthier." "Extend that block across all of the columns, doctor, assistant, office managers, hygienists etc." "Put those phones in the front office on forward to voicemail." "If the front office isn't on the same page as the back office there is a real good chance the patient wont get the care they deserve." "I love being a little blunt about it." "She does whatever she can chairside with our clinicians so they understand the workflow of it." Links GC America Lunch and Learn

Please Leave a Review! THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state. Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit! It's National Suicide Prevention month and Michelle has invited Kimberly Johnson, Ph.D., LMHC, a licensed mental health counselor with 25 years in practice, to discuss The Emotional PPE Project which was created to assist frontline healthcare workers who were taking on an emotional toll due to the COVID-19 crisis. In this episode, Kimberly starts the conversation by discussing her career as a mental health clinician and how volunteering for the Emotional PPE Project was a decision that stemmed from a personal decision to be supportive. Kimberly and Michelle discuss the emotional stress faced by frontline healthcare workers and how to tell when they are struggling, ways to help these workers when they feel overwhelmed, and how important it is to detox from social media and news outlets and also practice self-care. They round off with a discussion on the resources that can help those who are struggling during these times. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: Interview starts: 5:13 - Kimberly discusses her career as a mental health clinician - Volunteering in the Emotional PPE Project - The start of the Emotional PPE Project in dire times - Comparing the emotional stress of the pandemic to that of 9/11 - What defines a first responder? - Emotional struggles during different waves of the pandemic - How can dental hygienists guide healthcare frontline workers concerning their oral health? - Tell-tale signs for when healthcare frontline workers are struggling - 3 ways to help those who are overwhelmed - Embracing the divide - Why healthcare workers should practice self-care - When does venting on social media become toxic? - Resources that can help those struggling QUOTES: "I wanted a way to be involved, I wanted a way to give back, to be supportive." "The environment's changed. The stories have changed." "The impact of moral injury, of not being able to help, especially when you're a caregiver, you're a helper, it's about helping, and when you don't have the tools to make somebody better or to bring somebody back to a better place, it's problematic." "Sometimes people just need to be heard and validated and acknowledged" "Initially, when we're confronted with a lot of these kinds of stressors, some of our initial coping strategies that help us survive over the long term do not help us to thrive. They start to actually interfere with our ability to maintain our resiliency and keep going." "Instead of saying 'How was your day?', say, 'Tell me one good thing that happened today.'" "The reality is that life is a very gray area." "We can rebuild ourselves, rebuild our resiliency, find a little patience and our own sense of hope and our own sense of compassion, and that gets built back at times when we're practicing self-care, and not kind of just living constantly in that high stress." "When I think about Emotional PPE or I think about the oxygen mask analogy, we have to put on our own oxygen mask first before we can help others." "Hit that doorknob, take those breaths, ground yourself before you keep going, but it also means getting some water, taking those moments to be able to step outside and take some breaths of real air" "We have, through social media, really done ourselves a disservice on one hand in that we really have just permitted it to become this kind of angry place at times." "That which gives light must endure a burning" "There's a lot of people hurting out there. There's a lot of people that are dealing with a lot of emotional pain through this time." LINKS: A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn Emotional PPE.Org

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH talks to us about periodontitis and its "makeover". Quotes: "It's important for us to understand what this definition means, because within the scaffolding of this definition, we understand that primary features of periodontal disease can include loss of periodontal tissue support as seen in clinical attachment loss and or radiographically assessed movement of alveolar bone levels, as well as the presence of advanced periodontal pocketing and gingival bleeding." "We're seeing an imbalance where now the highest concentration of bacteria discovered in the biofilm itself is pathogenic bacteria, bacteria that is disease producing or onset of disease." Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Periodontitis: Consensus report of workgroup 2 of the 2017 World Workshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri‐Implant Diseases and Conditions. Journal of periodontology, 89, S173-S182.

This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Dr. Joy D. Void-Holmes, RDH, BSDH, MHSc, AADH to discuss Silver Diamine Fluoride and why you should think outside the box and incorporate a new product into your operatory. Dr. Joy is the founder of Dr. Joy, RDH and the creator of the Dental Hygiene Student Planner. Episode Highlights Silver Diamine Fluoride Think outside of the box Timeline of SDF Safety Benefits for Patients Off label uses Who is this for Quotes "Why would someone want to purposely blacken teeth?" "In 2016 SDF received the Breakthrough Therapy designation by the Food and Drug Administration because of its ability to arrest decay." "This is the first oral health therapy to receive this designation." "That is 2x more fluoride than is found in fluoride varnish." "It's worth the extra step in my opinion for the patient to maintain a cosmetically pleasing smile." "⅓ patients suffer from dentinal hypersensitivity." "Approximately 50% of older adults suffer from root caries." "Early Childhood Caries is still the number one childhood disease in the world." "My math may not be exact but chances are ½ of the patients you see on a daily basis could benefit from Silver Diamine Fluoride." "My patients are worth it, and your patients should be too." Links Follow Dr. Joy on Instagram Follow Dr. Joy on Facebook Visit Dr. Joy's website More TIPisodes

Please Leave a Review! THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state. Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit! It's A Tale of Two Hygienists', roundtable edition, which means Andrew and Michelle have invited multiple guests on the podcast. This week: Carrie Ibbetson, RDH, returns to the show, alongside Jennifer Stanley, RDH, to discuss infection control and prevention in dental practices. Carrie has worked as a dental assistant, front office coordinator, and a dental hygienist, temping in many offices, and Jennifer is a dental hygienist also with temping experiences. They join Michelle today to share the experiences they have had with infection control breaches. In this episode, Jennifer and Carrie discuss their journey as dental hygienists and their experiences working as temps in various practices. They discuss the importance of infection control and standardization in the dental industry and the challenges they face as temps when trying to bring up these safety issues. They further discuss various experiences they have had in different practices where safety was breached. The episode rounds off with advice on how to advocate for your own safety without burning bridges. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: Interview starts: 4:02 - Jennifer and Carrie discuss their careers and how they got into infection control - Infection control and prevention in the dental industry - The importance of standardization - Jennifer and Carrie discuss long term temping - The challenge of bringing up infection control issues as a temp - Challenging the lack of safety practices in the industry - Instances where practices have neglected infection prevention - Why you should learn infection control as a team - How to be your own advocate for safety - Where to find resources QUOTES: "I can't go back and change any of that but moving forward, I can be part of the change." "It's almost like when you're a hygienist and you're like, 'I hate the office, but I love my patients.'" "You love your patients so much, so why do you want them to be put in a disgusting situation?" "There are so many breaches of infection control that happen all the time, day in and day out." "The great thing about temping is, I can go anywhere, I can pick up and as long as I'm licensed in that state, I can have a job next week. I never have ever once worried about where my next paycheck is coming from." "Just like our brain, we move into habit loops with our infection control." "If you are somebody who is out there challenging anything, they will talk about you." "Once you start actually taking classes that you really need to be taking, and you delve deeper, and you decide to take your head out of the sand, it is not easy because you can't unsee it, you can't unlearn it." "No one should go to a clean facility and leave with a healthcare-associated infection." "Another really good point is to get on your local social media channels and start advocating for questions that the patients should be asking when they're coming in." LINKS: A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn Carrieibbetson.com Stanley Dental

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH talks to us about necrotizing periodontal diseases. Quotes: "If any of you have ever treated a patient that has a necrotizing periodontal disease, you'll never forget it. In fact, the smell of that disease process alone is probably ingrained into your nose hairs, if you know what I'm talking about." "This can also be observed with patients that have an odor, the patients are absolutely experiencing severe inflammation, and I hate to say it, one of my favorite parts about necrotizing disease is that it's oftentimes accompanied by pain, which I think oftentimes is a massive driver." Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Herrera, D., Retamal‐Valdes, B., Alonso, B., & Feres, M. (2018). Acute periodontal lesions (periodontal abscesses and necrotizing periodontal diseases) and endo‐periodontal lesions. Journal of clinical periodontology, 45, S78-S94.

This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Michelle and Andrew! Your hosts are giving you the tips on all the ways to learn and thrive with A Tale of Two Hygienists! Episode Highlights The Podcast - Get your CE (IT IS FREE) TIPisodes Fast Facts: Perio Edition Fact Facts: Pharmacology Edition Social Media AToTH Library - Website Newsletter - Subscribe HERE. Support us by subscribing and reviewing AToTH Quotes "I wish I had done a better job of keeping my CE tracked." "Use it, you never know when you might need more CE." "A lot of our growth has been through social media, so thank you for sharing, liking and following." "We've only been around for 3 years, why do we need a website?" "We are setting a standard of high quality information coming out through social media." "If you are a social media person you can get content there, if you are an audio person get content through the podcast, and if you are a written content or video person check out our website." Links AToTH Survey - Complete by Sept 10th, 2021 AToTH Episodes For FREE CE AToTH Instagram AToTH Facebook AToTH Website

Please Leave a Review! In this episode, Andrew Johnston, RDH is joined by Machell Hudson, RDH and Neil Hoover. On this episode our guests and Andrew dive into what it is like when you enter your first practice and how you can go about getting the equipment you need to be the best clinician possible. Machell is a repeat guest of A Tale of Two Hygienists and a clinical hygienist, speaker, coach and lover of all things Oral Systemic Health! Niel works in the DSO space with Dentsply Sirona and manages a team that manages the largest 150 dental support organizations in the industry. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: - New Grads - Hygiene School vs. Practice - Formularies - Budget - Lunch & Learn Interview starts: 2:33 QUOTES: "I was told in college we are the smartest we are ever going to be." "I am really so grateful that I temped at first because I got to experience different practices and methods." "Not a single practice was like what clinic was in college." "If you've seen one DSO, you have seen one DSO, they are all different." "There is no way any single individual out there can know every product on the market." "Budget is not a bad term." "The dental organization wants the best optimal clinical care done, no matter what." "Go slow, to go fast." "Lean on your doctor when you get out, they seem a little scary when you first get out but they are not." LINKS: [email protected] Dentsply Sirona - Preventive A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH looks at patients specifically who present with non dental biofilm induced gingivitis associated with traumatic lesions or hypersensitivity reactions. Quotes: "These are going to be patients that may have some type of a reaction due to dental restorative materials. These could be patients that are reacting to their toothpaste, their mouthwash, some type of a food, and most oftentimes these are patients that are presenting with a type 4 delayed contact, hypersensitivity reaction." "These are changes in which we begin to see shifts or movement of the soft tissue, again, not necessarily due to the presence of biofilm, but rather the presence of clinical disorders or allergic reactions." Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Chapple ILC, MealeyBL, et al. Periodontal health and gingival diseases and conditions on anintact and a reduced periodontium: Consensus report of workgroup 1 of the 2017 WorldWorkshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri-Implant Diseases and Conditions.JPeriodontol.2018;89 (Suppl 1): S74-S84

This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Andrea Wiseman, RDH from Elevate Oral Care to talk to us about prevention in restoration materials. Episode Highlights Planing the tooth Restorations Glass Ionomer SELDOX Quotes "Bacteria loves these areas with rough edges." "Restorations have an expected lifespan." "With modern chemistry we are finding ways to prevent bacterial adhesion at these sites and help make permanent restorations more realistic." "If the resin chips or fractures even the new exposed material is protected." "If it's too late for prevention at least now we can include prevention in the restoration to avoid secondary decay." Links Schedule AGD CE Accredited Staff Meeting 877-866-9113 or email [email protected] Patient Centered Communication Video Series: http://www.elevateoralcare.com/elevatingcare Elevate Oral Care Website: http://www.elevateoralcare.com Elevate Oral Care Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elevateoralcare Elevate Oral Care Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elevate_oral_care/ More TIPisodes: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/tipisodes/ AToTH Website: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com

Please Leave a Review! Jessica Atkinson, MEd, BSDH, RDH., Melia Lewis, MEd, BSDH, RDH., and Shelley Brown, MEd, BSDH, RDH., of 'Hygiene Edge' host the podcast this week. They have invited their students Angie, Blair, and Courtney to discuss challenges they faced in dental hygiene education and ways hygiene educators can set up students for success. Angie is about to start her final year at Dixie State University, Blair is a recent graduate from the Texas Woman's University, and Courtney is about to graduate. In this episode, Angie, Blair, and Courtney each describe the challenges they faced as new students of dental hygiene, including the effects of the pandemic and the changes that came with going online for learning. They also discuss how instructors have been helpful with resources, why good communication is important between instructors and students, the importance of mentors, and then round off the episode by giving advice to dental hygiene educators from their perspective as students. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: Interview starts: 2:30 - What was overwhelming to Angie as a new hygiene student - Blair explains feeling out of place as a new student - How a year break from school made Courtney anxious about going back - Transitioning online during the pandemic - How do educators assist students with resources? - Why good communication is important - Face-to-face communication versus online - The importance of constructive pep talks - The benefits of having different instructors - Why there is a need for mentors - How instructors help with the workload - Advice from a student's perspective - How personal is too personal? - 3 tips for dental hygiene educators QUOTES: "The biggest thing I remember, especially on my first day, the first summer classes, was just feeling so alone in the fact that I felt kind of unworthy to be there." "I just remember being so excited that it was finally here. I've been set on being a dental hygienist since I was in junior high." "Don't be nervous to ask for specifics." "It's all about teamwork and getting through with our classmates." "I just really value face to face communication when it's possible" "It's interesting how education has changed. When I was a student, I would always just go directly to the office, I don't feel like we communicated via email a whole lot." "So every time someone would stop and ask me for my reasoning, that is what helped me more." "I think I hesitate too long oftentimes in clinic to ask for help or for an instructor to kind of give me guidance on things." "There is always a point in school that feels like you can't do it anymore. It's too much, but you can always just hang on." "Everybody teaches differently, everybody learns differently." "You're there to learn and grow from each other's experiences, there to learn and grow from the experiences of your instructors, and to really become the best hygienists possible." "When I can connect with an instructor I feel so much more comfortable asking them for help." "The only thing harder than being a dental hygiene student is being a dental hygiene educator." LINKS: A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn PDT Homepage HYGIENE EDGE homepage

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH continues the conversation about patients that can present with an oral inflammatory condition not associated with dental biofilm. This week we are looking at patients that present with Mucocutaneous disorders. Quotes: "This is going to be a lot of pathology talk. For those of you who hated pathology in hygiene school, buckle up because we're doing it." "So the opportunity for us, if we begin to see desquamative gingivitis or some type of a vestigial or lesion in the free or attached gingiva that is not resolved by our periodontal therapy, by our debriding therapy, that sending this patient in for testing could help diagnose this autoimmune disorder before it begins to involve the skin." Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Chapple ILC, MealeyBL, et al. Periodontal health and gingival diseases and conditions on anintact and a reduced periodontium: Consensus report of workgroup 1 of the 2017 WorldWorkshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri-Implant Diseases and Conditions.JPeriodontol.2018;89 (Suppl 1): S74-S84

This week's TIPisode is delivered by our very own Andrew Johnston, RDH! He focuses the discussion on what a restorative hygienist does and tells us about his decision tree for selecting a restorative material. He also breaks down the restorative hygienist model for increased production and retention! It's a good episode for the whole team! Links http://www.gcamerica.com/ce/alleducation.php http://www.gcamerica.com http://www.gcamerica.com/products/operatory/EQUIA_Forte/ http://www.gcamerica.com/products/operatory/EQUIA-Forte-HT/

Please Leave a Review! THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state. Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit! Andrea Hight, Area Sales Manager for Software/Technology at Henry Schein One, joins Michelle today for a discussion about the critical role of the hygienist in improving overall health outcomes. With a dental career that boasts a strong focus on public, community health, and DSO dental models, Andrea also serves as a member of the board of directors for the National Network for Oral Health Access, Healthy Smiles for Kids, and the American Institute for Public Health Dentistry. Today, she shares her PowerPoint presentation regarding the importance of hygienists and the standardization of procedures in dental practices. In this episode, Andrea starts the conversation by discussing the various roles she has taken on in the dental space, and then begins her presentation by looking at the triple aim of healthcare and how hygienists connect better with, and are less intimidating to, patients. She goes on to review the positive impact dental assistants bring to clinics and practices by saving time and bringing about increased revenues, and finishes off with a discussion about the importance of standardization and inventory management. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: Interview starts: 8:48 - Andrea's dental career - What is the triple aim of healthcare? - The important role of the hygienist in connecting with patients - How dental assistants bring increased revenue to practices - Comparing the single column schedules with and without dental assistants - How to manage the work environment to boost productivity - The global treatment paradigm - 5 benefits of standardization - Why you need an actual patient flow - The importance of inventory management QUOTES: "I'm simply very passionate about the importance of oral health as part of overall health." "We're looking at making the patient experience more meaningful, making doing so cost-effective, and helping the patients become healthier at exactly the same time." "You've got great skills, why squander those skills when you can really enhance the impact you can have?" "Patients often find the hygienists to be less intimidating than the dentist, which supports more open communication, relationship building, and divulging of important health information." "DryShields do not replace dental assistants." "The end result of good planning with workflow in a dental assistant is you get to see more patients, you get to give them focused care, and the practice or program benefits with increased revenue, which more than offsets the cost of giving you a dental assistant." "Chronic little frustrations can be as hard on your system as a big stressor. In fact, chronic little stresses can be harder on you than a big stressor." "My first recommendation is that all rooms should be usable for everything. This enables you to adapt." "Be intentional about how the patient is from the moment the patient walks through the door into the clinic, through the clinic." "Applying evidence-based research and best practices are really valuable when you're determining materials." "It's amazing how many instructors are actually not training students to use the product according to the manufacturer's instructions." LINKS: A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn Andrea's LinkedIn Page PowerPoint Link

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition with your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH there's a fungus among us, we're looking at patients that present with some type of an inflammatory condition due to fungal origin. Quotes: "Histoplasmosis is actually an interesting infection that's acquired via the lungs via the respiratory tract due to inhalation of infected bat droppings." "Now, what we're starting to find is that patients that present with linear gingiva erythema may have this associated with an HIV infection, but even more so, we're starting to see a resolution of linear gingival erythema not only associated with being placed on an antiretroviral if an HIV diagnosis is found, but also placing the patient on an antifungal for high level therapy." Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Chapple ILC, MealeyBL, et al. Periodontal health and gingival diseases and conditions on anintact and a reduced periodontium: Consensus report of workgroup 1 of the 2017 WorldWorkshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri-Implant Diseases and Conditions.JPeriodontol.2018;89 (Suppl 1): S74-S84

This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Andrew Nobilini and Mike Rust from ProEdge Dental Water Labs! Andrew and Mike talk to us about the ONE waterline maintenance protocol to rule them all. Our hosts cut through the confusion and give you the information you need to know to do what is best for your practice and patients! Episode Highlights 3 Simple Steps to Passing Waterlines What is Shocking? Treating Daily Testing Quotes "Think of your dental unit lines like you think of your shower… it takes a nasty chemical to clean your shower, well it takes a nasty chemical to clean your dental unit waterlines as well." "Bugs come back." "Shocking works, but it only lasts a week unless you use a tablet or a straw." "We equate shocking to a professional cleaning, you still need to brush and floss daily and we equate that to treating." "Peace of mind, if you monitor your protocol you will know it is effective, when you document it you are protecting your practice, your reputation and your business." "When inspectors come knocking one of the first things they ask for are your dental unit waterline test results." "If you can do these three things you can absolutely have safe water in your office." Links: How to Shock Video Tutorial: https://proedgedental.com/howtoshock How to Shock PDF and Blog: https://proedgedental.com/shock Safe Water Webinar: https://proedgedental.com/webinar

Please Leave a Review! THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state. Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit! Duane Tinker returns to the podcast today to join Andrew and Michelle for a discussion about patient records and charts in the dental field. Listeners may remember that Duane is a former law enforcement officer who is currently the CEO of Dental Compliance Specialists, a company that works with dental practices across the United States to ensure staff are well-trained in infection control and are working with the best and safest equipment. Known as "The Tooth Cop", courtesy of his previous line of work in Texas law enforcement, he's also the host of the 'Talking with the Tooth Cop' podcast. Today he discusses the importance of charting and why auditing is necessary. In this episode, Duane discusses the importance of documentation in patient records, how cases where notes are inconclusive can pose legal and billing issues, what is needed in a document when signing electronically, and why shorthand should be kept to a minimum for easy communication. He goes on to review the pros and cons of using templates, the importance of reviewing and tweaking them whenever using them, and finishes off with a discussion about the auditing process, including how it is done, and why it should be done on a regular basis. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: Interview starts: 12:36 - Duane Tinker talks about living the dream in his RV - The challenges that come with the nomad life - The importance of documentation in patient records - What to include when signing electronically - Should shorthand be allowed? - The pros and cons of using templates - The key components of a template note - Handling the conversation when correction in notes is needed - The American Dental Hygiene Association standard - Why Perio charting? - Why do dentists need to train their assistants on documentation procedures? - Documenting x-rays and intraoral pictures - What is the auditing process? QUOTES: "One of the most beautiful things about being a business owner is being able to have a vision and create that vision and then execute." "The number one most common problem is no clinical note." "Every time that you see a patient, there's a story that unfolds there and you know, it's your job, whether you're the dental assistant, the dentist, or the hygienist to tell their story." "Communication is key and in an effort to not be misunderstood, let's just use plain English." "Your whole goal with your note is to paint a picture." "It takes a real talented person to be able to point out the positives and focus on the positives because you know, you have to give a little reward, give a little sugar, with medicine." "The only perfect template is the one that you've reviewed and tweaked, modified to suit your needs." "Your dentistry is only as good as your documentation. If you don't care enough to do that half the job, then why bother to show up and do the other half?" "It's important to document objective information with things that you can see, feel, touch...observe with your five senses, okay." LINKS: A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn Dental Compliance Homepage Talking with the Toothcop podcast

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH discusses patients that present with a gingival manifestation associated with viral origin. Quotes: "Speaking of fever, another very common viral condition that we can see in the oral cavity is primary herpetic gingivostomatitis." "The latent form is a form of shingles or herpes zoster and this type of shingles observation, of course, we oftentimes see in an older patient population, oftentimes observed by a unilateral pain. We see this as well in the oral cavity." Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Chapple ILC, MealeyBL, et al. Periodontal health and gingival diseases and conditions on anintact and a reduced periodontium: Consensus report of workgroup 1 of the 2017 WorldWorkshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri-Implant Diseases and Conditions.JPeriodontol.2018;89 (Suppl 1): S74-S84

On this A Tale of Two Hygienists bonus episode Michelle is talking with repeat guest and friend of the podcast Dr. Pamela Maragliano-Muniz about guided biofilm therapy (GBT) and the use of AIRFLOW® Prophylaxis Master from EMS. This episode is sponsored by EMS. For more information about Airflow visit www.ems-dental.com. Episode Highlights Long Term Outcomes Biofilm Research What's a Hygienist To Do? Infection Control and GBT GBT Supporting Technologies The Power of Disclosing Gel 8 Parts to GBT Quotes "For me it took a pandemic to bring me 100% on board." "It almost seems too good to be true, but it's true!" "It was one of those things where I wanted to be better, I realized I can be better." "GBT has been a practice changer." "Biofilm research dates back to 1979, and it BLOWS MY MIND." "If we really want to break this oral systemic link, and prioritize the patient's overall health we need something that is efficient, that works and something that isn't going to ruin our appointments and that is what this is such a great system." "I don't know who was more excited when we started GBT after the pandemic, me or my patients." "The patients are more engaged than ever, they love the technology." "I love that EMS puts motivation at the top of the appointment." "If you don't have the AIRFLOW® Prophylaxis Master, you can still practice some steps of GBT." "Thank you EMS for making us do what we should have been doing forever." "Chances are there is biofilm between those teeth and we are now placing our respiration in a cesspool." "GBT is a treat for the patient and the clinician." Links and Resources GUIDED BIOFILM THERAPY EMS Dental: Leader in dental prophylaxis and prevention AIRFLOW PROPHYLAXIS MASTER Airflow Max Hand Piece From EMS - Chairside Chat -

This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are speaking to all the clinical educators out there! We are joined by Shelley Brown, MEd, BSDH, RDH from Hygiene Edge to talk about helping students build confidence. Episode Highlights Let the student lead Set them up for success Show confidence in them Have the student use confidence language Give them compliments Quotes "Her lack of confidence in her skills caused me not to trust her with my health." "If a patient can't trust us, it doesn't benefit either party." "They need to feel the responsibility of a successful appointment." "If they are not on the right path, ask them questions to guide them on the right path." "We won't be there forever for the student to fall back on so they need to learn to troubleshoot and find the answer for themselves." "My instructor will come and confirm my findings." "When a student has confidence they relay competence to the patient." Links Hygiene Edge: https://www.hygieneedge.com More TIPisodes: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/tipisodes/

Please Leave a Review! It's A Tale of Two Hygienists' student roundtable episode, which means Andrew and Michelle have invited a roster of guests to educate student listeners on a chosen topic. Today, Michelle and Andrew have invited Teresa and Pete, two professionals with a vast amount of recruiting experience both within and beyond the dental field, to join them for this month's discussion regarding recruiting in the dental hygiene practice. In this episode, Teresa and Pete begin by sharing how they got into recruiting, different niches in which they have worked, why they prefer to hire new graduates, and the importance of having both new graduates and established hygienists in an organization. They also discuss attributes which recruiters like to see in candidates, some recruitment practices, the impact of the pandemic on the dental hygiene space, and their advice on how to set up your resume for your next job application. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: Interview starts: 5:31 EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: - Teresa and Pete share some of their background - New graduates vs established hygienists - Why new graduates? - The importance of having both new grads and established hygienists in an organization - Having an open mind and willingness to learn - Why flexibility is important - Social media recruiting vs job sourcing sites - Tips for setting up your information on job sourcing sites - The effects of the pandemic on hygiene opportunities for dental practices - Video interviews vs in-person interviews - benefits, pros and cons, and success rates - Scrubs vs business attire - Why you shouldn't put a headshot on your resume - How important is your resume? - CV vs resume for hygienists QUOTES: "The return on the investment was extremely positive because they were able to understand the business, understand what their role would be, and what they're actually going to school for." "By starting with the new grads, you're, you're molding that hygienist the way you want them to be." "The hard piece that we have, as recruiters, is level-setting them to reality, versus what the school is wanting them to try to find and accept, and then what they're looking for, especially." "It really is about your attitude towards the profession, the attitude towards your patients. It's your willingness to learn, willingness to kind of just continue to evolve as a professional because it's not going to be static ever." "The more flexible you are, the easier your professional development is going to be." "That shows you the power of social media, but yet, we're not harnessing the power in the right direction." "Since the pandemic, somebody just went in and just flipped the switch, and nobody wants to work." "Everybody's nervous when they go to an interview, no matter what kind of interview it is." LINKS: A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn ATOTH's Linktree Page Michelle's Facebook Page

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH discusses genetic or developmental disorders and infections that can affect a gingival lesion. Quotes: "Now, the main piece that I want you to know about this is that when a patient presents with necrotizing disease, necrotizing periodontal disease, absolutely there is an ideology of bacteria." "This is kind of an interesting type of gingivitis because it's not associated with plaque. It's associated with an infiltration of high strains of streptococcus." Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Chapple ILC, MealeyBL, et al. Periodontal health and gingival diseases and conditions on anintact and a reduced periodontium: Consensus report of workgroup 1 of the 2017 WorldWorkshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri-Implant Diseases and Conditions.JPeriodontol.2018;89 (Suppl 1): S74-S84

On this weeks TIPisode, brought to you by Young Dental we are joined by Whitney Howerton, MDH, RDH to discuss all things about handpieces, specifically cordless handpieces! Highlights Corded vs. Cordless Handpieces Create your handpiece wishlist Discover CDC recommendations for handpiece disinfection and sterilization Create a safer polishing experience for the patient and clinician Experience an innovative cordless handpiece Quotes: "I feel like I have better control of the RPMs with a foot pedal as opposed to applying more pressure or adjusting the speed via a pre-set speed setting much like an electric toothbrush." "In a cordless handpiece, I wanted a light weight, ergonomic design, the same power and torque as a corded handpiece and the ability to choose my own brand of prophy angles." "I want to introduce you to a handpiece where you have infinite possibilities." "The Infinity cordless handpiece by Young Dental offers an exceptional engineered design, weighing 4 ounces and has an extremely quiet operation." "4 ounces you guys, that is nothing!" "It is really for any dental professional that can legally use it!" "Clinicians can enjoy the flexibility of a cordless handpiece without sacrificing freedom of choice." "The Infinity paired with the Splatter Guard prophy angle is the most splatter reducing combination on the market." "It has killer and I mean KILLER battery life." Links Schedule an in-office demo Infinity Cordless Handpiece Info SPLATTER GUARD®

Please Leave a Review! THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state. Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit! Joining Andrew and Michelle on today's episode is Dr. Robert MacLean, DVM and Dr. Erin Ribka, DVM here to discuss animal oral health. Dr. Ribka is an owner and veterinarian at Veterinary Dental Specialties & Oral Surgery and Dr. MacLean is the senior veterinarian at the Audubon Nature Institute. They both graduated from the School of Veterinary Medicine at University of Wisconsin. Together, our hosts and guests discuss a variety of topics including the similarities in animal dentistry and human dentistry, dental issues in veterinary medicine, and pain management. In today's episode, we learn about our guests' backgrounds and how they know each other, the lack of training in dentistry for most veterinarians, the importance of feeding correctly to prevent dental issues, and the stories of various experiences they've had with their patients. The episode rounds off with a discussion about the similarities in instruments used in animal dentistry with those used in human dentistry, and the sterilization of instruments they use. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: Interview starts: 5:48 - The path to becoming a veterinarian - Dr. Ribka's interest in dentistry - How Dr. MacLean got into being a veterinarian for the zoo - Why do veterinarians need dentistry training? - The two tracks available in the American Veterinary dental college - Dental issues in veterinary medicine - Using Chlorhexidine for animal teeth - What animals regenerate teeth? - The importance of correct feeding for malocclusion prevention - Pain management in veterinary dental care - The etiology in wild animals vs companion pets - What are the similarities in instruments used for human teeth and animal teeth? - How to clean and sterilize instruments used in veterinary dentistry QUOTES: "Different veterinary specialties have different lengths, residencies, and different requirements." "We certainly recognize that in zoo medicine, that we these days, really try to rely on available experts to assist us so we make sure we get procedures done efficiently and correctly for the animals." "We have done, as veterinarians, not a very good job of training veterinarians in dentistry." "Dentistry is what got me into veterinary medicine." "Periodontal disease in small animal patients is the number one disease - more than obesity, more than anything else." "Most zoo veterinarians have at least some basic knowledge of extractions." "Tetracycline has also been used as a biomarker to age animals." "We got a couple of years more lifespan on these animals if we tried to periodically float their teeth and manage their dental arcades." "As soon as I passed that first exam, I forgot everything I had to know about rabbits." "Education is absolutely key and if people understand why I want to extract the tooth or why this tooth needs a root canal, then they're more accepting of the cost because it's not cheap." "Periodontal disease in companion pets has gotten much worse because of the way we breed them." "We see more dental issues in our older animals." "There are fewer than 200 veterinary dentists in the world." LINKS: Donate to Audubon Nature Institute Dr. MacLean's LinkedIn Dr. Ribka's LinkedIn Audubon Nature Institute Veterinary Dental Specialties & Oral Surgery A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn ATOTH's Linktree Page Michelle's Facebook Page

On this AToTH bonus episode Andrew learns how to use our new podcasting equipment and Michelle talks with Melissa Turner, Brooke Crouch and Sarah Crow about the Cellerant Best Of Class Hygiene Awards! Episode Highlights Cellerant Best of Class Hygiene Awards Virtual Award Program December - We select WINNERS! Debate (To the Death for Michelle) "We look at the technology and pick out the products that stand out amongst the crowd." "We sat down and said he HAVE TO extend this to dental hygiene." "Spirit has down grades only." "Pandemic man, there isn't even anything left to say about that." "Just because there is a category, doesn't mean there is a winner." "We all have our individual backgrounds." "We all have those couple of things we love." "This award is one of the most prestigious awards in dental hygiene." "This award is completely unbiased." "This award has integrity, it is about doing what is right when no one is watching." "The innovation is what dental hygiene has needed for a minute." "Are we going to have safe words, are we going to have a time out chair for Michelle?" "To the DEATH… who said that? Did I miss a memo?" "We are all talking about having a friendly debate and Michelle is to the death over here." The Cellerant Best of Class Hygiene panel members include: Melissa Turner, BASDH, RDHEP, EFDA- Chief Hygiene Officer, Cellerant Consulting; Editorial Advisory Board, RDH Magazine; Co-founder, National Mobile & Teledentistry Conference; Co-Founder, The Denobi Awards; Founder- I Heart Dentistry Network; Co-host, Dentistry Gone Wild; Co-creator, Oral Health United [email protected] Pamela Maragliano-Munez, RDH, DMD, FACP- Chief Development Officer, Cellerant Consulting; Editor In Chief, Dental Economics; Editorial Director, Dental Academy of Continuing Education; Associate clinical professor, Tufts University School of Dental Medicine [email protected] Andrew Johnston, RDH, BSBM- Director of Hygiene, Coast Dental; Co-host, A Tale of Two Hygienists [email protected] Amanda Hill, RDH, BSDH- Host, Your Dental Top 5; Editorial Advisory Board, RDH Magazine; Industry Educator, Dental Post; Certified Educator, OSAP-DALE Foundation [email protected] Brooke Crouch, RDH- Vice President, American Mobile & Teledentistry Alliance; Clinical Advisory Board Chair, Virginia Health Catalyst; Oral Health Action Team Chair, United Way of Roanoke Valley [email protected] Kristin Goodfellow, RDH, BA- Clinical Director, OraCare Oral Rinse; 2013 Recipient, Proctor & Gamble's Excellence in Patient Communication Award; Featured author, Dental Products Report & RDH Magazine [email protected] Michelle Strange, MSDH, RDH- Co-host, A Tale of Two Hygienists; Client Success Manager, MouthWatch; Co-founder, LevelUp Infection Prevention; Editorial Advisory Board, Dental Economics [email protected] Nancy Miller, RDH, BA- Founder, UltraConcepts; Clinical Advisor, Jameson Management; Adjunct Faculty & Clinical Instructor, Northeast Wisconsin Technical College; [email protected] Sarah Crow, RDH- President-elect, ADHA Massachusetts; Co-founder MDHA Mentor Liaison Team; Recipient, Massachusetts Dental Society Hygienist of the Year; Recipient, Middlesex Community College Member of the Year; Feature Writer, ADHA Access Magazine [email protected] Links Press Release: https://www.dentistrytoday.com/news/industrynews/item/8635-cellerant-best-of-class-hygiene-award-program-launches-for-2021 Learn about Cellerant www.cellerantconsulting.com

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH discusses systemic or modifying factors for patients that present with dental biofilm induced gingivitis. Quotes: "What we're really talking about is the fact that in addition, these individuals present with a dramatic rise in their sex steroid hormone levels during puberty." "we look at patients that present with medication for contraception, namely patients that take over-the-counter birth control pills. These are going to be patients that will present with some type of a gingival inflammation in many cases due to the concentration of sex steroid hormones." Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Chapple ILC, MealeyBL, et al. Periodontal health and gingival diseases and conditions on anintact and a reduced periodontium: Consensus report of workgroup 1 of the 2017 WorldWorkshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri-Implant Diseases and Conditions.JPeriodontol.2018;89 (Suppl 1): S74-S84

This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Steve Pardue from Elevate Oral Care to talk about xylitol, a tool to fight against acid producing bacteria! Episode Highlights Demineralization and Remineralization Xylitol Quantity of Xylitol Quotes "Everyday when we eat and drink our exposed teeth demineralize for a period of time." "Fluoride hardens the tooth surfaces but does little to effect the bacterial presence in the mouth." "Xylitol has no effect on the tooth but can starve out specific bacteria that are very acid producing." "You don't need to consume a bunch of xylitol, just rather just have small amounts throughout the day." "Here at Elevate we try to add xylitol to everything we can." Links Schedule AGD CE Accredited Staff Meeting 877-866-9113 or email [email protected] Patient Centered Communication Video Series: http://www.elevateoralcare.com/elevatingcare Elevate Oral Care Website: http://www.elevateoralcare.com Elevate Oral Care Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elevateoralcare Elevate Oral Care Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elevate_oral_care/ More TIPisodes: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/tipisodes/ AToTH Website: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com

Please Leave a Review! THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state. Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit! It's been a long time in the works, but Andrew and Michelle finally get to welcome someone to the show today that so many listeners have been requesting – the amazing Lisa Copeland, RDH, CSP, CVP. With a remarkably successful corporate healthcare speaking career under marketing, sales, and education spanning 30 years, Lisa is a veritable fountain of information, experience, and advice. Her current focus is on the generational communication aspect of dentistry, a critical component in practices these days, and she shares her IRONMAN principles regarding this communication with listeners here today. In this episode, Lisa shares some of her background and experience, explains generational communication, and walks through her IRONMAN principles of business communication. She also discusses teledentistry, one of COVID's silver linings, connecting communication and money, getting team members participating, and highlighting the positives about practices. She finishes up by promoting some ways to get IRONMAN started in practices and introducing her upcoming 'Dental Teams Unite' initiative. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: Interview starts: 13:10 - Lisa's background - Generational communication - Lisa's Iron Man experiences and training - The Iron Man principles of business communication - Teledentistry - One silver lining of COVID - Connecting communication and money - Getting team members to participate in communication strategies - Highlighting positives about your practice - Getting IRONMAN started in your practice - Dental Teams Unite QUOTES: "People are just little plague rats in my life, and I want to stay away from them." "I put a really heavy, heavy emphasis on generational communication now, because there's so much friction with four or even five generations working in the workforce." "The youngest generation coming to the workforce is Gen Z, and they are, you know, they've been bookended. They had the great recession, and now they're living through COVID." "People evaluate 11 things about you, in seven seconds." "Start just walking through your office as if you were a new patient coming into your practice." "Relationships are the cornerstone of every business." "If you're actively listening, you're listening with all of your senses, and you're really taking in what the person is trying to communicate to you, and not thinking about your answer immediately." "It's all teachable to people but some people are just naturally good at it. And some people have to really work at it." "We have to look at their wants first and then focus on their needs." "I would love to say that our hygienists are really good at including whatever their main concern is, or whatever the thing that they want. But it ends up being just an item on a treatment plan rather than a relationship." "Give people the opportunity to cross train, and also be leaders of different points." "Give them a call to action so they know what's next, what's coming up, and what's, you know, in their future." "You have to have processes and protocols in place for that seamless handoff and follow up." "Teledentistry has really closed the gap in a lot of the communication gaps that have occurred." "Are you telling me that we don't adopt research and evidence based practices in a timely manner?" "Once you get that team firing on all cylinders, it is such a beautiful thing." "I don't think we use the reception area, the waiting area, enough for acknowledgement and patient education." LINKS: A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn ATOTH's Linktree Page Michelle's Facebook Page Volunteering: An Unexpected Way to Market Your Dental Practice PDT Homepage Communicate With Influence Dental Teams Unite Text Lisa @ (206)465-1637

On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH discusses predisposing factors to dental biofilm induced gingivitis. Quotes: "I want to be very clear, this is when biofilm levels have begun to build up. And if we do not see any disruption or removal of this dental plaque accumulation over days or weeks, we're going to begin to see what's called an incipient dysbiosis." "And so oftentimes from a treatment standpoint, yes, we are having the conversation about biofilm control. But in some of these arenas, controlling that inflammatory condition may also mean that we need to control the risk factor, meaning if a patient is reacting to a PFM margin perhaps biofilm control alone may not be the only way to address this challenge." Resources: DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/ Sources: Chapple ILC, MealeyBL, et al. Periodontal health and gingival diseases and conditions on anintact and a reduced periodontium: Consensus report of workgroup 1 of the 2017 WorldWorkshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri-Implant Diseases and Conditions.JPeriodontol.2018;89 (Suppl 1): S74-S84

This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Pediatric Dentist, Dr.Jeannette MacLean to talk to us about the expanding MI Paste line from GC America. Episode Highlights What is MI Paste? Recaldent Using MI Paste in Your Practice Pediatric Patients Teen Patients MI Paste Plus Hypersensitivity MI Paste One MI Paste Kids Quotes "MI paste is actually a topical tooth cream that contains recaldent." "It's nice to have an alternative to offer parents who are leery of fluoride." "It tastes good, it's a mild flavor so compliance is good." "In the process of doing that you are going to hyper mineralize the outer surface of the enamel." "As it hyper mineralizes it can sometimes stain." "I have had success with this Etch MI Paste technique." "Switching to MI Paste there was a noticeable difference in my sensitivity." "You can clean and protect teeth with MI Paste One." "The cotton candy flavor tastes like real cotton candy." Links MI Paste Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/mi.paste/ MI Paste Family Products: https://www.gcamerica.com/products/preventive/MI_Paste_Plus/index.php Dr. MacLean Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuJ6qgHP6JxaIqmSe3HSLmQ Dr. MacLean Website https://kidsteethandbraces.com/ http://www.gcamerica.com/ce/alleducation.php http://www.gcamerica.com

Please Leave a Review! THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state. Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit! Inspired by the book, What Happened To You?, by Bruce D. Perry and Oprah Winfrey, Michelle and Andrew have invited Jasmin Haley, RDH, MSDH, CDA to discuss Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs). The Founder and CEO of Beyond the Prophy and Co-Founder of the MOMgienist Community, Jasmin has extensive experience as a dental hygienist, national educator, and assistant, and is a 2018 recipient of the nationally recognized Sunstar/RDH Award of Distinction. Currently, she is also a speaker and a business growth strategist who helps entrepreneurs scale their business. In today's episode, our hosts and guest discuss ACEs, how they impact the lives of people, and the effects shown in individuals with high ACE scores. They also discuss how the brain works and how it embeds our experiences, the differences between PTSD and ACEs, and also how the gaps in education can prevent healthcare workers from realising how patient behavior can be a result of dealing with trauma. Jasmin concludes by recounting how she, despite having a high ACE score, was able to push through, and advising us all to look inwards and save ourselves by asking that most important question, "What happened to me?" EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: Interview starts: 9:56 - Jasmin discusses her new journey as an entrepreneur and business growth strategist. - What Are Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs)? - The effects on ACEs - the number one public health threat. - Defining a traumatic event. - Types of ACEs and their impacts on a developing brain - PTSD vs ACEs - the differences - Kaiser Permanente's research on ACES - The education gaps healthcare workers have and how they affect patients. - Lessons from the book, What Happened To You?, By ‎Bruce D. Perry and Oprah Winfrey. - How the brain embeds our experiences. - Jasmin's struggles with ACEs as a child. - What is resiliency? - The importance of looking inwards to find out what happened to you. - The tree of regulation. - 3 ways to help patients dealing with traumas - How to bring up the subject of ACEs with people QUOTES: "The question should always be 'What happened to you?', regardless of what that person's problem is." "Every course that I've taught, I realized that there were gaps in our education." "To know that there is a whole other world of healthcare workers out there that are not trauma informed and could therefore be harming our patients more than doing good is scary." "How many times did I not give my patients the treatment that they needed because I was annoyed with their behavior that they might not have not even understood." "There's a huge component of resiliency that we all have but there are many of us that are left behind." "When we look at ACEs, it's almost like an oil spill, and it just spills over every single possible medical condition you can think of." "What if these children who had these experiences had that one person that just poured into them at that right moment?" "It starts with us, we've got to work on ourselves first." "It sounds like the majority of us are broken so we might not know how to save ourselves first." "We're meant to be in community. We are relational creatures." "How are we impacting every single person that we're meeting in a meaningful way?" "If we're not willing to give ourselves that same amount of compassion, how in the world are we going to do that for our patients?" LINKS: A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn Jasmin Haley Homepage Nadine Burke Harris's TEDtalk