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21 in 21: Matthew Pines

21 in 21: Matthew Pines

21 in 21 · Hosted by Haley Berkoe

August 19, 202526m 11s

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<p>Haley Berkoe talks with Matthew Pines, Executive Director of the Bitcoin Policy Institute, about bitcoin’s growing role in U.S. policy. They cover building a bitcoin community in DC, how policymakers are treating bitcoin as a strategic asset, the risks of quantum computing and AI, and why this moment feels like one of “high agency and high leverage” for bitcoiners.</p> <p><strong>TIMESTAMPS:</strong> </p> <p>00:00 Introduction to Matt Pines and his path into bitcoin</p> <p>02:10 The bitcoin scene in Washington DC</p> <p>03:47 Shifting policy conversations and bitcoin as a strategic asset</p> <p>05:12 Advice for bitcoiners engaging policymakers</p> <p>07:06 What a bitcoin standard world could look like</p> <p>09:08 Quantum computing risks and government response</p> <p>13:18 Book recommendation: Global Discord by Paul Tucker</p> <p>15:09 The intersection of bitcoin and AI</p> <p>18:02 Dream bitcoin projects still missing in the market</p> <p>19:42 Spicy take: China vs. U.S. bitcoin holdings</p> <p>20:30 Optimism for bitcoin’s future and ETF adoption</p> <p>23:24 Final takeaway: the power of agency</p> <p>25:27 How to follow Matt and the Bitcoin Policy Institute</p> <p><strong>FOLLOW:</strong> </p> <p>Matthew Pines: <a href="https://x.com/matthew_pines">https://x.com/matthew_pines</a> </p> <p>Bitcoin Policy Institute: <a href="https://x.com/btcpolicyorg">https://x.com/btcpolicyorg</a> </p> <p>Haley Berkoe: <a href="https://x.com/HBerkoe">https://x.com/HBerkoe</a> </p> <p>Presidio Bitcoin: <a href="https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin">https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin</a></p> <p><strong>LINKS:</strong></p> <p>Insights from the Quantum Bitcoin Summit <a href="https://presidiobitcoin.substack.com/p/insights-from-the-quantum-bitcoin">https://presidiobitcoin.substack.com/p/insights-from-the-quantum-bitcoin</a> </p> <p>Bitcoin Plushie: <a href="https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin">https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin</a> </p> <p><strong>WATCH THE SHOW:</strong> </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin">https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin</a></p>