2 Parachutes Podcast
The Two Parachutes Podcast is a collaboration, well, more like a conversation, between a CEO and an FBI Agent.
Shawn Baker-Garcia and Scott Olson
Show overview
2 Parachutes Podcast launched in 2025 and has put out 31 episodes in the time since. That works out to roughly 30 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a weekly cadence.
Episodes typically run an hour to ninety minutes — most land between 59 min and 1h 4m — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Society & Culture show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 2 weeks ago, with 27 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2026, with 27 episodes published. Published by Shawn Baker-Garcia and Scott Olson.
From the publisher
The Two Parachutes Podcast is a collaboration, well, more like a conversation, between a CEO and an FBI Agent. Shawn Baker-Garcia and Scott Olson first met when they were working at US Embassy Baghdad; Scott for the FBI and Shawn for the US State Department. Over the years they’ve worked together, given advice and assistance to each other, and now see that the synergy which comes from open, civil, and thoughtful discussion is very much needed in the modern discourse. Join them as they dive into everything interesting to humanity. The goal of 2PP is to recreate the experience most people have had when they stumble into an insightful conversation with a new acquaintance at a conference or a dinner party. The kind of conversation that makes the rest of the room stop talking and listen. The kind of conversation that gets your mind working as new thoughts tumble out. Let the 2 Parachutes Podcast drop into your world!
Latest Episodes
View all 31 episodesTo AI or Not To AI . . . Wait, What's The Question?
Sloganeering
Just The Facts
Fragile Systems
Ep 27Being Open With Noble Intent
Does your intent matter when you communicate? Does what you intend change how you connect, and does it change how others connect with you? Scott and Shawn decide to jump into this episode without a plan. Come ride the storm with them!
Ep 26Pain and Suffering
Is something that's hard to do also difficult? Is difficult stuff hard to do? What about pain and suffering? Do you have to suffer just because you feel pain?
Ep 25The Language of Freedom
We think we're free. But are we? And what does it mean to be free? Is it the old image of "Your right to punch ends at the tip of my nose"? Or is it something more?
Ep 24The Lizard Brain
We start with the winning and losing and then dive into the Amygdala, the Limbic System, and the Prefrontal Cortex. But it's not about the science, it's about how to be human!
Ep 23Escaping the Narrative
Scott and Shawn talk about ways to interact more productively in the public discourse. It's all about doing the hard work of interacting with other people!
Ep 22Sovereign Immunity
This episode dives into the unique problems faced by government and the impact on people and companies who interact with government.
Ep 21Fear and Anger; Anger and Fear
This episode starts with work stress which leads to talking about prayer and then descends into a discussion of how Fear and Anger interact.
Ep 20Don't Force Don't Fight
2PP takes a rare turn (for us) to talk about current political events.
Ep 19Tempo and Time Away
Shawn and Scott tell the stories of their Thanksgiving travels and find their way into a discussion of the tempo of living.
Ep 18Vibrations in the Machine
Shawn comes in hot with a personnel issue from work which moves into a discussion of how different people think, feel, and interact.
Ep 17Baseball and Education
Two non-fans talk about baseball and find their way into a discussion about performance standards, AI, and education.
Ep 16What Do Words Mean
The soundtrack isn't dialed in on this one - another rookie mistake! But we dive into a discussion about language and how it drives understanding.
Ep 15Aaron's Laptop
One of Shaw's baby birds deals with theft while attending an Ivy League school. Scott and Shawn talk about generations.
Ep 14Chucky the Orange Menace
2PP dives into pets and how they impact people.
Ep 13The Straight and Narrow
Scott and Shawn talk about when to push and when to let yourself get pulled.
Ep 12Dangerous People
This is the second try at the disastrous introduction and we confirmed that we won't do it again! But the episode itself dives into a discussion about dangerous people and what we ought to do.