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Want to grow your money at 30% to 50% per year—without the stock market rollercoaster, soul-crushing 80-hour workweeks, or gambling on risky get-rich-quick schemes?Do you crave financial freedom but feel stuck in the outdated “work harder, save more, retire someday” model?Welcome to The Growing the Money Podcast, where host Rich Lennon pulls back the curtain on the wealth-building strategies the banks, billionaires, and ultra-wealthy use every day to grow their fortunes—strategies that YOU can start using today.If you’re ready to take control of your financial future, this podcast is your shortcut to creating sustainable, long-lasting wealth. Forget Wall Street’s 4% “safe” retirement model or risky investment fads. Instead, Rich will show you how to build wealth smarter, faster, and with less risk—all while keeping your time and sanity intact.Whether you’re a:Real estate investor looking to scale your portfolio without overleveraging...Private money lender searching for higher, more predictable returns...Entrepreneur ready to grow your income streams and outsmart traditional financial systems...Or a professional tired of working harder just to stay stuck in the rat race...This show is your blueprint to financial freedom.Every week, Rich shares his proven money frameworks—strategies designed to grow your wealth faster and more sustainably, all while protecting what you’ve worked so hard to build. You’ll learn how to:Achieve 30% to 50% annual returns without relying on the stock market or complex schemes.Put your money to work for you, so you’re not trading your time for dollars.Avoid the pitfalls that keep most people broke and stressed about money.Unlock the same wealth-building secrets banks and the rich use to grow their empires.But this is more than just a podcast—it’s a movement to help you flip the script on your financial life.If you love podcasts like The Suze Orman Show, The Dave Ramsey Show, or BiggerPockets Money Podcast, or if you’re inspired by money minds like Grant Cardone, Robert Kiyosaki, or Tony Robbins, you’ll feel right at home here.No fluff. No gimmicks. Just real-world strategies to grow your money smarter, faster, and without the stress.It’s time to stop following the same tired advice that keeps you stuck in the grind. It’s time to grow YOUR money. Let’s reclaim your financial freedom together.
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View all 119 episodesEp 118Episode 118: The Self-Limiting Belief That's Costing Experienced Investors Millions in Missed Deals
Are you losing deals before you even make an offer? Most investors think they’re being logical when they assume what a seller will or won’t accept. But the truth is that habit quietly kills opportunities and limits how much wealth you can actually build.In this episode, Rich Lennon shares a mindset shift that transformed how he approaches real estate deals. He explains why thinking for the other side of the table is one of the most expensive mistakes investors make, how this belief forms, and what happens when you remove it. He also shares a personal story that changed his perspective, along with insights on seller financing, negotiation, and making better offers without fear.You’ll Learn How To:Stop assuming what sellers want and start making better offersRemove self-limiting beliefs that block deal flow and growthApproach negotiations with clarity and confidenceWho This Episode Is For:Real estate investors are missing out on dealsInvestors are struggling with confidence in negotiationsAnyone looking to improve their mindset and decision-makingWhy You Should Listen:Most investors unknowingly talk themselves out of opportunities before they even try. This episode shows how one simple mindset shift can open more deals, increase confidence, and remove the invisible barrier holding back your growth.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] The mindset mistake that causes investors to miss deals[01:00] Why surrounding yourself with the right people accelerates growth[02:00] How assumptions about sellers block real opportunities[03:00] The key lesson that changed Rich’s approach to investing[04:00] Why you should stop thinking for the other side of the table[05:00] How this mindset shift unlocks more deals and confidenceFollow Rich Lennon Here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 117Episode 117: The Portfolio Grew, the Freedom Didn’t. Here’s What Was Missing
What if building a bigger real estate portfolio didn’t actually give you more freedom? For a lot of investors, the plan seems simple: buy more properties, grow the portfolio, and life gets easier. But somewhere along the way, many investors realize something surprising, the portfolio keeps growing, yet the freedom they expected never shows up.In this episode, Rich Lennon joins the show to share how his investing journey evolved from chasing deals and growing a rental portfolio to realizing that more properties didn’t necessarily mean more flexibility. From wholesaling his first deal to scaling up acquisitions and managing a fast-growing business, Rich eventually discovered a missing piece most investors overlook: systems.You’ll Learn How To:Avoid turning your freedom business into a full-time jobUse systems and automation to stay on top of leads, deals, and tenantsManage hundreds or thousands of leads without getting overwhelmedFollow up consistently with sellers, buyers, and wholesalersBuild a real estate business that works for you, not because of youWho This Episode Is For:Investors juggling too many deals, leads, or propertiesReal estate entrepreneurs are feeling stuck doing everything themselvesLandlords struggling to stay organized with tenants and follow-upsAnyone ready to run their investing business more efficientlyWhy You Should Listen:Many investors focus only on finding the next deal. But the real growth happens when you learn how to manage the business behind those deals. In this episode, Rich breaks down how automation and systems can turn chaos into clarity, so you can scale without burning out.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] How Rich went from engineer to full-time entrepreneur[04:00] The accidental landlord story that started his investing path[06:00] His first wholesale deal and the $12K proof that real estate works[08:00] The painful lessons from his first flip[12:00] When the business started growing faster than he could manage[15:00] Discovering automation and building systems with Podio[18:00] How automated follow-ups dramatically improve rent collection[22:00] Managing thousands of leads without losing track[25:00] Why systems are the key to scaling a real estate business[30:00] The mindset that keeps investors pushing through tough momentsFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 116Episode 116: How to Raise $500K in 48 Hours (Without Begging Banks) - Part 2
Can you really double a small retirement account again and again until it hits six figures? Most people assume you need a lot of money to start building wealth. But the truth is, small amounts can grow fast if you know how to structure deals, use partnerships, and think differently about risk, returns, and opportunity.In this episode, Rich Lennon returns to break down how investors can grow small amounts of capital into real wealth using real estate and lending. He explains how to double retirement accounts, why bringing the deal matters more than having money, and how to structure partnerships that accelerate growth. The conversation also touches on private lending, risk, and building strong networks.You’ll Learn How To:Turn small retirement accounts into larger investments through smart dealsStructure partnerships that generate cash flow and long-term growthUse private lending to create consistent double-digit returnsWho This Episode Is For:Investors starting with small amounts of capitalReal estate investors interested in private lendingAnyone looking to grow their money faster through dealsWhy You Should Listen:Most people believe you need a lot of money to start investing. Rich explains why that thinking is wrong. When you understand deal structure and positioning, capital becomes easier to access and grow. This episode shows how to move from small numbers to real wealth through execution.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] Why doubling small retirement accounts should be the goal early on[01:30] How to use partnerships when you don’t have much capital[03:00] When it makes sense to pay taxes to grow faster[07:00] Why passing rentals to your kids can backfire[10:00] How private lending deals are structured[13:00] How to protect partners while increasing your returns[25:00] Why networking is the real driver of opportunity[33:00] Avoiding analysis paralysis and taking actionFollow Rich Lennon Here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 115Episode 115: How to Raise $500K in 48 Hours (Without Begging Banks) – Part 1
What kind of investor can post on Facebook asking for $500,000, and have dozens of people ready to fund it? It sounds crazy at first. But it actually reveals one of the biggest truths about real estate investing: money isn’t the hard part. The real challenge is building the trust, experience, and network that makes people confident putting their capital behind you.In this episode, Rich Lennon joins the show to share the story behind the viral moment when he needed half a million dollars fast, and how his network stepped up almost instantly. But this conversation goes way deeper than one Facebook post. Rich breaks down the real reason many investors struggle to raise capital, why most people misunderstand scaling, and how building the right relationships can completely change your investing career.You’ll Learn How To:Build the kind of network that funds deals quicklyUnderstand why money is often the easiest part of real estateAvoid the biggest mistakes investors make when trying to scaleUse relationships and reputation to unlock private capitalThink differently about funding, partnerships, and opportunitiesWho This Episode Is For:Investors who believe lack of money is holding them backReal estate entrepreneurs looking to raise private capitalLandlords ready to expand but unsure how to fund growthAnyone who wants to build stronger investing relationshipsWhy You Should Listen:Most investors think funding is the biggest barrier to getting started or growing. Rich shows why that mindset is backwards. When you build the right reputation, relationships, and track record, capital starts looking for you. This episode pulls back the curtain on what actually makes people comfortable wiring large amounts of money, and how you can begin building that kind of trust in your own network.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] The Facebook post asking for $500K that shocked everyone[03:00] Why money is usually the easiest part of real estate[05:00] Rich’s background and how he got into investing[10:00] The dangers of scaling too quickly[13:00] Why chasing deal volume can destroy your profits[17:00] Building systems and teams to handle growth[20:00] How COVID changed Rich’s investing strategy[24:00] The shift from owning rentals to lending moneyFollow Rich Lennon Here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 114Episode 114: Zero Foreclosures. 30-50% Returns. No Marketing. Here's the Lending Model Nobody Talks About - Part 2 - Preston Zeller.
What if you could earn 30–50% returns in real estate, without flipping houses, managing tenants, or spending money on marketing? Most investors are taught the same path: buy rentals, build a portfolio, and keep stacking doors. But what happens when you’ve already done that, and the returns stop growing?In this episode, Rich Lennon shares the shift that completely changed how he thinks about building wealth. After years of owning a large rental portfolio, Rich realized something surprising: the equity in his properties looked impressive on paper, but the actual returns were shrinking. So he made a bold move. He started selling rentals and moving that capital into private lending, a model that now generates significantly higher returns while requiring far less time and effort.Rich breaks down how this strategy works, why he keeps his lending local, and how he built a deal flow pipeline without running ads or chasing borrowers. If you’ve ever wondered what comes after building a rental portfolio, this episode will open your eyes.You’ll Learn How To:Understand why large rental portfolios can quietly produce low returnsTurn equity from properties into higher-yield opportunitiesUse private lending to generate strong returns without owning more real estateStructured deals that can reach 30–50% returns through fractionalized lendingBuild deal flow through relationships instead of marketingWho This Episode Is For:Real estate investors with growing equity but modest cash returnsLandlords are tired of managing tenants and maintenanceInvestors curious about private lending or note investingAnyone who wants their money to work harder with less effortWhy You Should Listen:Many investors spend years building portfolios, only to realize their wealth is locked inside assets that don’t produce strong returns anymore.Rich explains how he recognized that moment, and why shifting from owning properties to owning the paper completely changed his financial strategy. His approach is simple, relationship-driven, and built around a principle most investors overlook: your money should work harder as your wealth grows, not slower.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] Why Rich began shutting down his rehab business[05:30] The surprising truth about rental portfolio returns[10:00] Why expanding into new markets caused major losses[14:00] The shift from owning properties to owning the note[18:30] How private lending can generate much higher returns[21:45] The difference between private money and hard money[24:00] How Rich gets deals without running marketing[26:30] Why financial education is missing for most investorsFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/Follow Preston Zeller here:Website: http://theartofgrievingfilm.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prestonzeller/?hl=enYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZellerhausArt
Ep 113Episode 113: Zero Foreclosures. 30–50% Returns. No Marketing. The Lending Model Nobody Talks About – Part 1
What if one of the most profitable real estate strategies didn’t require owning dozens of rentals, flipping houses, or spending thousands every month on marketing?In this episode, Rich Lennon sits down with Preston Zeller to break down a lending model that many investors never hear about, but the ones who discover it often wonder why they didn’t start sooner. Instead of chasing deals, managing tenants, or constantly hunting for the next property, this strategy focuses on something far simpler: becoming the lender.Rich Lennon joins the show to share how he transitioned from building a traditional real estate portfolio into a private lending model that has produced consistent returns, strong relationships, and zero foreclosures. He explains why lending can be one of the most overlooked opportunities in real estate and how it allows investors to grow wealth while avoiding many of the headaches that come with owning properties.You’ll Learn How To:Understand the difference between owning real estate and lending on itBuild strong returns without running a full real estate operationUse private lending as a wealth-building strategyReduce risk while still participating in profitable dealsBuild relationships with borrowers who consistently bring opportunitiesWho This Episode Is For:Real estate investors are tired of managing rentals and renovationsInvestors who want strong returns without running a full businessPeople are curious about private lending as a wealth-building strategyAnyone looking for alternative ways to grow capital through real estateWhy You Should Listen:Most investors think the only way to win in real estate is to own more properties. But sometimes the smarter move is stepping into a different role entirely.This episode introduces a lending model that allows investors to stay involved in real estate while avoiding many of the traditional headaches. If you’ve ever wondered how lenders generate strong returns without managing properties, this conversation will open your eyes to a strategy few people talk about.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] Why many investors overlook lending as a real estate strategy[04:00] Rich’s journey from traditional investing into private lending[08:00] The problem with constantly chasing deals[12:00] Why lenders often face fewer headaches than property owners[17:00] The role relationships play in building a strong lending network[22:00] How this model creates consistent opportunities without marketing[27:00] Why some lenders achieve strong returns while avoiding foreclosuresFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/Follow Preston Zeller here:Website: http://theartofgrievingfilm.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prestonzeller/?hl=enYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZellerhausArt
Ep 112Episode 112: How Taxes Are Silently Destroying Your Wealth (And the Strategy That Stops It)
What if the biggest thing holding you back financially isn’t your income, your investments, or even your spending, but your taxes? Most people focus on making more money. Very few focus on keeping more of what they earn. And over time, that quiet leak adds up to hundreds of thousands, even millions, of dollars lost.In this episode, Rich Lennon joins the show to break down why income taxes are the single biggest obstacle to building real wealth, and what you can legally do about it. From the power of tracking your net worth to the strategy behind buy-and-hold real estate, Rich shares the mindset and moves that helped him shift from operator to lender, and dramatically accelerate his wealth.You’ll Learn How To:Track your wealth so you can actually grow itUnderstand why income taxes slow your progress more than you thinkUse buy-and-hold real estate to create powerful tax advantagesApply the BRRRR strategy the right wayMinimize risk while still earning higher returnsWho This Episode Is For:Real estate investors are trying to keep more of what they earnEntrepreneurs frustrated by large tax billsAnyone building wealth who feels stuck or behindInvestors are ready to think long-term instead of year-to-yearWhy You Should Listen:Most people never question how much taxes cost them over a lifetime. This episode opens your eyes to the compounding effect of taxation and the strategies available to offset it legally. If you want to grow your net worth faster and more securely, this conversation gives you practical tools you can actually use.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] Rich’s background and why tracking wealth matters[03:00] The compounding example that changes how you see taxes[06:00] Why income taxes are the biggest wealth killer[08:30] How the government uses the tax code to incentivize investors[10:30] The basics of buy, rehab, rent, refinance, repeat (BRRRR)[13:00] Using private money and refinancing to recycle capital[15:00] Understanding risk, returns, and playing the long gameFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 111Episode 111: One Florida Investor Just Lost 30 Deals (And Every Private Lender With Him)
What happens when 30 real estate deals fall apart at the same time, and the private lenders lose everything? It’s happening right now. Rich actually likes subject-to deals. They can be powerful tools when used correctly. But when you ignore basic rules, equity, underwriting, legal structure, and skin in the game, things can go bad fast. And when they do, the private lender is usually the one left holding the bag.In this episode, Rich breaks down what went wrong in a major Florida subject matter situation and why so many private money lenders are suddenly stuck with no exit and no protection. This isn’t about fear. It’s about facts.You’ll Learn How To:Spot red flags before wiring your moneyProtect yourself in subject-to dealsAvoid greed-driven decisionsStructure private lending the right wayMake sure you’re truly secured before fundingWho This Episode Is For:Private money lendersPassive investors chasing high returnsAnyone involved in subject-to dealsInvestors in masterminds or paid groupsReal estate professionals who want to protect their capitalWhy You Should Listen:Many lenders were promised 30%, 40%, or even 50% returns. That should’ve been the first warning sign. Rich walks through the six biggest mistakes private lenders are making right now, from lending outside their local market to skipping attorneys, ignoring equity, and trusting operators with zero skin in the game.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] What’s happening with subject-to deals around the country[02:00] Why lending outside your local market adds massive risk[04:00] The greed gland problem and unrealistic returns[05:30] Why operators need real skin in the game[07:00] The danger of skipping legal representation[08:30] Why equity is non-negotiable in lending[10:30] The problem with mastermind groupthink[12:00] How to protect yourself before the deal goes badFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 110Episode 110: Investor vs. Business Owner – Why One Goes Home and One Goes Back to Work
What if the biggest difference in real estate isn’t how much money you make, but whether you have to keep showing up to make it? There’s a massive mindset gap between being a business owner and being an investor. One has to go back to work after the meeting. The other doesn’t.In this episode, Rich shares two stories that hit him hard. Both involved walking into rooms full of high-level builders and commercial real estate professionals, and realizing he was completely underdressed. This episode isn’t about clothes. It’s about confidence. It’s about understanding the difference between owning a job in real estate and owning assets that pay you whether you show up or not.You’ll Learn How To:Understand the real difference between a real estate business and real estate investingBuild confidence in your investor identityStop chasing activity and start building passive incomeThink long-term instead of living deal by dealSeparate the image from the actual wealthWho This Episode Is For:Wholesalers, flippers, and builders who feel stuck in the grindLandlords who want to transition into true passive incomeEntrepreneurs are questioning whether they built a business or just another jobAnyone who wants financial freedom, not just financial successWhy You Should Listen:It’s easy to confuse being busy with being wealthy. This episode challenges you to ask a better question: when the meeting ends, do you go home or go back to work? Rich shares a simple but powerful mindset shift that changed how he saw himself and his business. Real wealth isn’t about looking successful in the room. It’s about owning assets that work whether you’re there or not.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] The mindset difference between investors and business owners[02:00] The builders' association meeting that sparked the shift[04:00] How perception and appearance can mislead you[06:00] The commercial real estate conference wake-up moment[08:00] The confidence shift halfway down the aisle[10:00] Why passive income changes how you see yourself[11:00] The real question to ask about your real estate careerFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 109Episode 109: How I Bought 30 Rentals Without Using a Single Dollar of My Own Money
What if the reason you’re stuck at one or two rentals is that you keep using your own cash? Most investors think they need to save more money before they can scale. Bigger down payments. Bigger reserves. Bigger bank account. But what if that mindset is actually the thing slowing you down?In this episode, Rich breaks down the exact strategy he used to buy his first 30 rental properties, without using a single dollar of his own money. No gimmicks. No hype. Just borrowing money the right way, renovating smart, refinancing out, and keeping your capital safe. He walks through the numbers, the real cost of interest, and why worrying about rate differences can keep you stuck on the sidelines.You’ll Learn How To:Buy rental properties with none of your own cashUse private money and hard money the right wayStop obsessing over interest rates that barely matterReverse engineer deals based on refinance requirementsProtect your cash so you never run out of capitalWho This Episode Is For:New investors who think they need big savings to startLandlords who feel capped because they keep putting 20% downEntrepreneurs who want to scale without draining their reservesAnyone serious about building a rental portfolio the smart wayWhy You Should Listen:The worst thing that can happen to a real estate investor isn’t paying 2% more in interest. It’s running out of cash. Rich shares why keeping access to capital is more important than shaving a few thousand dollars off an interest payment. He explains the real difference between 12% and 18% money, how to use local banks to refinance, and why borrowing, even when you have cash, is often the safer move. This episode isn’t about being flashy. It’s about being strategic.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] The simple mindset shift that unlocked 30 rentals[01:30] The buy, renovate, rent, refinance model explained[03:00] Private money vs. hard money, what really matters[05:00] Why the interest rate difference is smaller than you think[07:00] How local banks evaluate refinance deals[09:00] Reverse engineering your purchase price for zero cash in[10:00] Why you should avoid using your own money, even if you have it[11:30] The real danger of running out of capitalFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 108Episode 108: How to Turn Your $8 Hour VA Into a Manager Who Actually Runs Your Business.
What if your $8/hour virtual assistant could eventually run your entire company? Most entrepreneurs hire VAs to handle small tasks. Answer emails. Pull lists. Follow up on leads. And that’s where it stops. But what if you could turn that same person into a true manager, or even a COO?In this episode, Rich breaks down exactly how he’s done it inside his own real estate business. He explains the difference between a task-based assistant, a true manager who owns 90-day goals, and a COO who makes real business decisions based on the P&L. This isn't a theory. It’s how his company actually runs day to day.You’ll Learn How To:Understand the difference between an assistant, a manager, and a COODelegate outcomes instead of just tasksUse 90-day goals rocks to create accountabilityBuild a leadership structure with virtual team membersStep out of daily decisions and let your business runWho This Episode Is For:Real estate investors building a rental or acquisition teamEntrepreneurs are tired of being the bottleneckBusiness owners who want real leverage, not just cheap laborAnyone curious how far a virtual assistant can actually growWhy You Should Listen:Most people see virtual assistants as low-level help. Rich sees them as future executives. In this episode, he shares how he promotes from within, trains VAs to think like owners, and gives them real responsibility over revenue, expenses, and company goals. If you want a business that runs without you approving every little thing, this conversation will change how you think about hiring.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] Why most entrepreneurs underuse their virtual assistants[01:00] The difference between task-based VAs and managers[02:00] What 90-day rocks are and how managers own them[03:00] How a virtual COO can run your P&L[04:00] Why process and the right hire matter more than location[05:00] How to remove yourself as the daily decision-makerFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 107Episode 107: The $75K Credit Card Loan That Vanished - 3 Mistakes That Destroyed a Private Lender.
What if trying to make a safe 12% return ended up costing you $75,000, plus 25% interest? This episode is different. Rich shares a real call he received from a private lender who wired $75,000 to a local flipper, using a 0% credit card. No mortgage. No deed of trust. No security. And now the borrower has disappeared, while the credit card company wants its money back.It’s a tough story. But it’s also a powerful lesson. In this short but important episode, Rich breaks down the three critical mistakes that destroyed this deal and how you can make sure you never end up in the same position.You’ll Learn How To:Avoid lending institutional money, such as credit cards or lines of creditProtect every loan with the right security instrumentRecognize red flags like gap funding and bridge loansSeparate community reputation from real due diligenceThink like a lender, not like a people-pleaserWho This Episode Is For:New private lenders who want to avoid painful mistakesReal estate investors approached for quick bridge loansAnyone considering using credit cards to fund investmentsInvestors who want to grow wealth without blowing it upWhy You Should Listen:Private lending can be one of the best wealth-building tools in real estate. But only if you do it right. This episode is a wake-up call. Rich walks through exactly what went wrong, from lending borrowed money to wiring funds without security, to ignoring the warning signs behind gap funding requests. It’s not about fear. It’s about being smart, protected, and prepared. Because if you won’t protect your money, no one else will.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] The call that sparked this episode[01:30] Why lending credit card money is a dangerous move[03:00] The massive mistake of not securing the loan[04:30] Why reputation is not collateral[05:00] The red flags behind gap funding and bridge loans[06:30] What happens when a borrower disappears[07:30] The hard truth about trying to recover your moneyFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 106Episode 106: Why I Changed My Mind on Debt Three Times (The Wealth Curve That Explains Everything)
Is debt the key to building wealth, or the thing that quietly puts you at risk? The honest answer? It depends on where you are in your journey.In this short yet powerful episode, Rich Lennon breaks down how his opinion on debt has changed three times as his net worth, confidence, and priorities have evolved. From wanting everything paid off, to leveraging hard to grow, to shifting back toward security, this episode walks through the real-life thought process behind each move.You’ll Learn How To:Know when debt helps you grow and when it holds you backThink about leverage based on your stage of wealthUse return on equity to guide smarter decisionsBalance growth with peace of mindAdjust your strategy as your life changesWho This Episode Is For:Rental property owners are unsure whether to pay off propertiesBRRRR investors are debating how much leverage is too muchEntrepreneurs trying to grow without overextendingAnyone who feels torn between safety and speedWhy You Should Listen:Debt isn’t good or bad. It’s a tool. And tools only work when you use them at the right time. In just nine minutes, Rich gives you a simple framework for thinking about debt through the lens of the wealth curve, so you can make decisions that match your goals, not someone else’s strategy.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] Why Rich’s view on debt changed over time[01:30] His early goal of owning properties free and clear[03:00] How leverage helped him grow faster[04:30] The moment security started to matter more[06:00] Understanding the wealth curve[07:30] How return on equity changes the game[08:30] Why your strategy should evolve as you growFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 105Episode 105: 140+ Loans, Zero Losses -The Private Money Lending System Every Investor Needs - Part 2
What if the real secret to safe, consistent lending isn’t finding better borrowers, but writing better loans?In Part 2 of this series, Rich Lennon goes deep into the actual mechanics that protect private lenders when things go wrong. This isn’t theory or hype. It’s the real-world structure Rich has used across 140+ loans without a single loss.He breaks down exactly how notes, deeds of trust, defaults, penalties, insurance, and personal guarantees work together to give lenders control, not hope. If you’ve ever wondered how experienced lenders protect themselves before money goes out the door, this episode answers that question clearly and honestly.You’ll Learn How To:Structure notes so there’s no confusion at payoffUse default clauses as leverage, not punishmentProtect yourself with insurance, guarantees, and cross-defaultsControl deals when borrowers stop communicatingLend confidently without needing perfect borrowersWho This Episode Is For:Private lenders who want real downside protectionInvestors lending on flips or BRRRRsAnyone using self-directed retirement moneyOperators ready to transition from active deals to lendingInvestors who want predictable returns without surprisesWhy You Should Listen:Most people think losses happen because of bad borrowers. In reality, they happen because of weak paperwork and unclear terms. This episode shows you how professional lenders design loans that work even when things go sideways, so you stay in control no matter what.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] Why the note is where real lender power starts[03:00] Per-annum interest vs short-term rate confusion[06:30] How default clauses actually protect lenders[10:30] Using penalties as leverage, not enforcement[14:30] Insurance requirements most lenders miss[18:00] Why personal guarantees matter more than LTV[21:30] Cross-default and cross-collateral strategies[25:30] How experienced lenders control risk during rehabs[29:00] Why lending beats every other real estate strategy long-termFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 104Episode 104: 140+ Loans, Zero Losses - The Private Money Lending System Every Investor Needs -Part 1
What if lending money felt safer than flipping houses? No rehabs. No tenants. No late-night phone calls. Just steady returns and real control. This isn’t theory or hype. It’s a practical, asset-based approach built from years of experience, including what to do when deals go sideways and how to protect yourself before they ever doIn this episode, Rich Lennon breaks down the private money lending system he’s used to fund over 140 loans without a single loss. He shares the real rules he follows, the mistakes he sees new lenders make, and why lending became the most predictable part of his real estate business. If you’ve ever thought about lending money but weren’t sure how to do it safely, this episode lays the foundation.You’ll Learn How To:Lend money without relying on trust or emotionsProtect your downside with simple, repeatable rulesStructure loans that give you control if things go wrongAvoid the most common mistakes new private lenders makeThink like a lender instead of an operatorWho This Episode Is For:Investors who are curious about private money lendingLandlords and flippers looking for more predictable returnsPeople with capital who want fewer headachesAnyone who wants their money working without active involvementWhy You Should Listen:Most investors focus on finding deals. Smart investors focus on protecting capital. This episode shows how private lending flips the script, putting you in control of the deal, timeline, and risk. Rich explains it in plain English, using real examples from his own lending experience, so you can decide if this strategy fits your goals.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] How Rich got started lending and why he shifted away from active investing[04:30] Why asset-based lending removes emotion from deals[08:30] The biggest mistakes new private lenders make[13:00] How Rich structures loans to stay protected[17:30] What really matters when underwriting a deal[22:00] Why short-term loans give lenders more control[26:00] How to think about risk before you ever wire moneyFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 103Episode 103: Why I Pay My Taxes With Credit Cards (The Unpopular Airline Miles Strategy)
What if paying taxes didn’t have to feel like pure pain? What if it could actually work in your favor? Most people dread tax day. Some would literally rather swim with sharks than deal with it. But in this episode, Rich Lennon shares an unconventional strategy he personally uses to turn one of life’s biggest expenses into something useful: airline miles.Rich walks through why paying taxes with credit cards can make sense if you do it the right way, how extensions really work and where people mess this up, and why overpaying slightly can be smarter than underpaying. No loopholes. No gimmicks. Just practical thinking about cash flow, penalties, and using everyday expenses to your advantage.You’ll Learn How To:Avoid costly tax penalties that most people don’t see comingUnderstand when extensions help, and when they don’tUse credit cards strategically without going into debtTurn unavoidable expenses into airline milesThink about taxes like a money manager, not a victimWho This Episode Is For:Investors and business owners who want to be smarter with taxesAnyone curious about airline miles and travel strategiesPeople are tired of tax season stress and surprisesThose looking for simple, practical money ideas that actually workWhy You Should Listen:Taxes aren’t optional, but how you approach them is. This episode breaks down a realistic way to reduce friction, avoid mistakes, and make tax season a little less painful. Rich keeps it honest, practical, and grounded in real-life experience rather than theory.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] Why so many people fear tax day, and why you don’t have to[01:15] What filing an extension actually does, and doesn’t do[02:45] The penalties and interest most people underestimate[04:00] Why Rich prefers to overpay instead of underpay slightly[05:10] The unpopular reason he pays taxes with credit cards[06:30] How airline miles really work in plain English[07:45] Using tax strategy to support long-term wealth buildingFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 102Episode 102: How Fractional Lending Works - The $100K Loan That Returns 30% (Explained)
Most real estate investors obsess over acquiring more deals, more units, and more flips. But very few ever question what happens after they’ve already built wealth. What do you actually do with the money you make? How do you grow it without adding more employees, stress, or operational complexity?In this episode, Rich Lennon breaks down a strategy most operators never consider until they hit the ceiling on flipping and rentals: fractional lending. Rich explains how he pivoted from a 14-employee operation doing 4–5 flips a month to lending out millions of dollars at 30–50% returns while working less than five hours per week. He covers how fractional lending works, why it outperforms traditional rentals from a return-on-equity standpoint, and how even passive lenders can earn double-digit returns secured by real assets.You’ll Learn How To:Build wealth through lending instead of operationsStructure fractional loans that return 30–50% on your own capitalEarn passive double-digit returns by backing borrowers safelyProtect lender money using notes, title policies, and builder’s risk insuranceVet assets, underwrite borrowers, and enforce proper draw proceduresRaise private capital without pitching, selling, or sounding desperateWho This Episode Is For:Flippers and wholesalers who are hitting operational ceilingsReal estate investors looking to convert equity into higher returnsPrivate lenders seeking safer passive double-digit yieldsOperators exploring alternatives to flipping, rentals, and syndicationsEntrepreneurs who want time freedom without sacrificing wealth growthWhy You Should Listen:This episode reveals a wealth strategy most investors only learn after burning out on flipping and rentals. It shows how to take money already earned from real estate and grow it faster, with less work and greater security. Rich breaks down how professional lenders generate asymmetric returns, how fractional models leverage other people’s capital, and why building wealth can look very different from making money.What You’ll Learn in This Episode: [00:00] Why Rich stopped flipping and pivoted to lending [03:00] How fractional lending works and why lenders can earn 30%+ [07:00] How “Billy Bob” participates and earns passive double-digit returns [10:00] How to underwrite deals: asset-first vs. borrower-first [14:00] The two insurance policies lenders must require at closing [18:00] How to protect capital using notes, mortgages, and draw controls [24:00] How to raise private money without pitching or sounding desperate [31:00] Who fractional lending benefits most, and when it makes sense to pivot [38:00] Why experienced investors seek time freedom, not more flipsFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92
Ep 101Episode 101: The BRRRR Method Is Dying - Here’s What Smart Investors Are Doing Instead -Part 2
What if the strategy that helped you build your portfolio is now quietly working against you?BRRRR used to be the go-to play. But in today’s market, higher prices and interest rates have changed the math, and many investors are feeling it.In this episode, Rich Lennon breaks down why BRRRR doesn’t work the way it used to and why the refinance step has become the biggest problem. Using real numbers from his own portfolio, Rich walks through how deals that once cash flowed now lose money, and how assuming low-interest loans and shifting toward lending can completely change the outcome.You’ll Learn How To:See why BRRRR deals that used to work now fall apartUnderstand how interest rates flipped the numbersIdentify when refinancing hurts more than it helpsUse loan assumptions to improve cash flow dramaticallyThink differently about rentals, notes, and lendingWho This Episode Is For:BRRRR investors are struggling with today’s marginsLandlords with equity but shrinking cash flowInvestors are burned out on rehabs and property managementAnyone exploring private lending or note investingWhy You Should Listen:Markets change. The best investors change with them. This episode helps you understand why BRRRR isn’t performing like it once did and what experienced investors are doing instead. Rich shares real examples so you can evaluate your own strategy with clearer expectations.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] Why BRRRR worked so well in the past[04:00] How rising prices and rates changed the math[08:00] A real example of a BRRRR deal that now loses money[12:00] Why refinancing is the weakest part of the strategy[16:00] How assuming low-interest loans improves cash flow[20:00] The difference between owning rentals and owning notes[24:00] Why Rich shifted toward lending[27:00] How to think about strategy changes moving forwardFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 100Episode 100: The BRRRR Method Died – Here’s What Smart Private Lenders Are Doing Instead -Part 1
What if the strategy that helped you build wealth is now the thing quietly holding you back? For years, the BRRRR method was the go-to playbook. Buy, rehab, rent, refinance, repeat. It worked. However, today’s market appears quite different. Higher rates, tighter deals, and thinner margins have changed the math, even for experienced investors.In this episode, Rich Lennon joins the show to talk honestly about why BRRRR doesn’t work the way it used to, and what smart investors are doing instead. Rich shares his personal shift away from owning and managing rentals and into private lending, not because he failed, but because the game changed.You’ll Learn How To:Spot when a once-great strategy has run its courseUnderstand why higher interest rates broke the BRRRR mathSee how private lending fits into today’s marketReduce stress while still earning strong returnsThink like a capital allocator, not just a property ownerWho This Episode Is For:BRRRR investors are feeling squeezed by today’s marketLandlords are tired of rehabs, tenants, and surprisesInvestors sitting on equity are unsure what to do nextAnyone open to smarter, simpler ways to grow wealthWhy You Should Listen:Most investors keep running the same play long after the rules have changed. This episode helps you zoom out, rethink your approach, and understand why many experienced investors are shifting away from ownership and toward lending. It’s a practical, grounded look at what’s actually working right now.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] Why BRRRR worked so well for so long[03:30] How rising rates quietly changed the strategy[07:00] The hidden risks most BRRRR investors overlook[11:00] Rich’s personal turning point with rentals[15:30] Why private lending started to make more sense[19:30] Comparing ownership stress vs lending simplicity[23:00] What smart investors are prioritizing today[26:00] How to start thinking differently about your next moveFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
Ep 99Episode 99: How to Write Checks From Your IRA Without Waiting on Your Custodian
What if your retirement money could move as fast as you do? No waiting. No paperwork bottlenecks. No missed deals because a custodian took days to respond.In this episode of Growing the Money, Rich Lennon breaks down one of the most misunderstood and powerful tools in self-directed investing: checkbook control. Rich explains how investors use trusts or LLCs to gain direct access to their IRA funds, why speed matters in real estate, and the exact process to do it the right way, without triggering penalties or breaking the rules.You’ll Learn How To:Understand what checkbook control actually meansMove IRA money faster without waiting on custodian approvalsDecide between using a trust or an LLCAvoid common mistakes that can trigger penaltiesUse self-directed retirement funds for real estate the smart wayWho This Episode Is For:Investors using or considering self-directed IRAsReal estate investors who need speed to competeLenders are tired of custodian delaysAnyone who wants more control over retirement moneyWhy You Should Listen:Speed matters in investing. This episode shows how experienced investors legally gain control of their IRA funds so they can act quickly, protect opportunities, and avoid costly delays. Rich walks through the process step by step, shares real-world examples, and explains the rules in a way that actually makes sense.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:[00:00] Why speed matters when using retirement money[01:15] What checkbook control really means in simple terms[02:45] The biggest problem with waiting on custodians[04:00] How investors legally gain control of IRA funds[05:45] Trust vs. LLC: which option makes sense for you[07:30] How to avoid mistakes that trigger penalties[09:00] When checkbook control is and isn’t the right move[10:30] Final takeaways and who this strategy is best forFollow Rich Lennon here:Website: https://richlennon.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rich.lennon.121Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richlennon92/
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